maven OK, for those who want the comprehensive list of options for R, here they are: Decline both penalties and take the ball at the spot of first touching, R 1/10 at K-45, clock on the snap. Decline the penalty for kick OOB and accept the penalty for illegal kick. That occurred during a loose ball play, previous spot enforcement, 15 yards and rekick. FK for K at K-25. Due to the accepted penalty for a foul during the down, R's right to take the ball at the spot of first touching lapses. Decline the penalty for illegal kick and accept the penalty for kick OOB. Two sub-options here: 5 yard penalty and rekick, FK for K at K-35, or Spot the ball 25 yards from the FK spot, R 1/10 at R-35, clock on the snap. In 3.1 and 3.2, due to the accepted penalty for a foul during the down, R's right to take the ball at the spot of first touching lapses. Decline both fouls and first touching, and take the ball at the OOB spot. R 1/10 @ R-30, clock on the snap.
Suudy maven wroteOK, for those who want the comprehensive list of options for R, here they are: There is one other option. Take te the ball where it went OOB. That is, decline both fouls and take the ball at the OOB spot.
maven Suudy wroteThere is one other option. Take te the ball where it went OOB. That is, decline both fouls and take the ball at the OOB spot. Right. Decline everything. I'll add it!
bisonlj CT1 wroteAre we sure the kick OOB foul applies here? Yes...free kick out of bounds untouched by R. That's the definition.
MD Longhorn CT1 wroteAre we sure the kick OOB foul applies here?Absolutely. Is there any reason you're not sure it applies?
CT1 MD Longhorn wroteAbsolutely. Is there any reason you're not sure it applies? Well, I was trying to equate this with a similar play: K pooch kicks to the R-45. Just before R18 can recover the kick, K88 intentionally kicks the ball OOB.
Welpe CT1 wroteWell, I was trying to equate this with a similar play: K pooch kicks to the R-45. Just before R18 can recover the kick, K88 intentionally kicks the ball OOB. That would still be a FKOOB assuming R had not touched the ball before it went out.
maven Welpe wroteThat would still be a FKOOB assuming R had not touched the ball before it went out. Yep. Illegal kick does not change the status of the loose ball, which is either a pass, fumble, or kick.