"Unofficial" signals

bob jenkins

BillyMac wrote
The assistant interpreter/training committee official who discouraged many from using such a signal had a far reaching effect on many officials on our local board. He was one of our top officials for many years, doing a state final almost every year for over twenty-five years. He was a mentor to many officials, including me, and still has many disciples. Our present group of interpreters/training committee officials seem to be reluctant to "teach" any unofficial signals, maybe due to pressure from IAABO "above".

That's why we have four different unofficial signals rattling around (head patting, point to your wrist, single finger, point to clock and turn finger clockwise), or no signal. If I can get an often used signal from you guys, I might step up and suggest it to the interpreter, and training committee.

One finger (no, not that finger) is used in the second half of college games because of the shot-clock rule.

One finger is used in the first half because it's used in the second half.

One finger is used in HS games because it's used in college games. 😉

Adam

BillyMac wrote
Did you read my post? I'm not talking about last second shot responsibility,

My bad

BillyMac wrote
Does anyone use an intra-crew unofficial signal to let your partner know that there's only a short time left in the period (one minute) so as to not be surprised by, and possibly miss, a close call (shot released) at the end of the period.

BillyMac wrote
I have already posted our unofficial/official IAABO chest thump for that. I'm talking about when the clock begins to wind down under a minute, which may not necessarily be the same as the last shot of the period. In the last minutes of play in any period, especially in a lop sided game, the kids may just keep on "playing basketball", not setting up for a last second shot. With only two officials here in The Land That Time Forgot, sometimes the two officials just get caught up in the up, and down, action on the court. If both of us don't know that there is less than a minute left, then there will certainly not be a last second shot responsibility signal. I am embarrassed to tell you how many times in thirty-two years that I have been surprised when the horn sounded to end a period. If one of us notices that there is about a minute left, he should communicate that with his partner, who, right, or wrong, might not know.

The answer is the same, for most of us, regardless of what's going on with 60 seconds left.

When there will be a last second shot, we'll do the signals again sometimes if there's a change in possession.

BillyMac

Adam wrote
The answer is the same, for most of us, regardless of what's going on with 60 seconds left. When there will be a last second shot, we'll do the signals again sometimes if there's a change in possession.

Adam wrote
As for the last second shot, here, we point one finger in the air. The official who has the last shot chest bumps his palm.

Still confused? Clock winding down? One finger. I've got last shot? Chest bump. I like what I hear, sounds like what I would like to do, but how are the answers the same?

Adam

Because when we do this, we acknowledge who has the last shot, even if there's 60 seconds left. Although frankly, I tend to wait until about 30 seconds or so to do anything.

RookieDude

Whatever your CREW chooses to do...

I would strongly suggest to at least pre-game it so that you are all uniform and using the same signals...also, you have all agreed on using them and you all understand what these signals mean.

Raymond

Adam wrote
Because when we do this, we acknowledge who has the last shot, even if there's 60 seconds left. Although frankly, I tend to wait until about 30 seconds or so to do anything.

Same here...in college games I like to do it at 35 since it's the last possible shot clock scenario also.

BktBallRef

Adam wrote
Because when we do this, we acknowledge who has the last shot, even if there's 60 seconds left. Although frankly, I tend to wait until about 30 seconds or so to do anything.

Exactly.

bob jenkins

1 minute so we get the shot clock right.

Last shot with about 5 or 10 seconds left.

Raymond

BillyMac wrote
The assistant interpreter/training committee official who discouraged many from using such a signal had a far reaching effect on many officials on our local board. He was one of our top officials for many years, doing a state final almost every year for over twenty-five years. He was a mentor to many officials, including me, and still has many disciples. Our present group of interpreters/training committee officials seem to be reluctant to "teach" any unofficial signals, maybe due to pressure from IAABO "above".

That's why we have four different unofficial signals rattling around (head patting, point to your wrist, single finger, point to clock and turn finger clockwise), or no signal. If I can get an often used signal from you guys, I might step up and suggest it to the interpreter, and training committee.

Billy, you've been officiating for 32 years. You need to help set the tone for your association. You shouldn't be waiting for guys to tell you what is acceptable.

BillyMac

BadNewsRef wrote
You need to help set the tone for your association. You shouldn't be waiting for guys to tell you what is acceptable.

This is what I like: Clock winding down: One finger; I've got last shot: Chest bump. Plus, the chest bump is IAABO approved.

I don't like the head pat (not that anyone would be confused, it's just already an approved signal for something else).

Just want to see what's out there before I make my move.

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