Last-second shot

JRutledge

JetMetFan wrote
I was wondering who'd be the first to point that out. It didn't make sense to me that he went up with the three signal then changed to waving off the shot.

I do not see that as a big deal. He knows it is going to be a 3 point shot so I can understand the instinct to do that. But he never got the hand that high for that signal. I am more surprised why he waved off the shot than that little insignificant detail.

Peace

JetMetFan

JRutledge wrote
I do not see that as a big deal. He knows it is going to be a 3 point shot so I can understand the instinct to do that. But he never got the hand that high for that signal. I am more surprised why he waved off the shot than that little insignificant detail.

Peace

It's not significant, just odd since this is an either/or situation. Either the shot was released on time or it wasn't. There's no reason to signal it's an attempt if it actually came after the horn. It seems as though in the second it took him to change he somehow talked himself out of the shot being released in time.

On another front: We can't see the full huddle on camera but I'd like to think the L would've been the one to give the strongest argument for the goal to count. He's the one guy who didn't have any players to watch in the sequence.

Camron Rust wrote
Not sure why he could possibly be calling it off. That horn was well after the release. Maybe he's under the impression it has to hit the rim before the horn????

Camron, I had that thought as well. Then I thought, "Nah, there's no way someone could really think that, could they?" But that might actually explain why he started signalling the three and then brought it down.

Nevadaref

deecee wrote
Ouch, not even close. To answer your 2 questions.

1. I have no frickin clue.
2. ...pass on foul and award ball OOB where they come in and say, "didn't you see it hit red #xx" and I say, "didnt you see the foul on white #xx that i passed on"), so it depends.
2a. It also depends on my confidence with my partner.

Why would you EVER pass on a foul? (Your words.) I understand passing on contact if it doesn't cause a disadvantage, but what you wrote is just bizarre.
Please either call a foul or award the ball to the team which didn't touch it last.

Doing otherwise is unfair.

HokiePaul

I think he (incorrectly) thinks the ball hit the basket support after the initial bounce. That explains the 3 point signal and wave off.

HokiePaul

HokiePaul wrote
I think he (incorrectly) thinks the ball hit the basket support after the initial bounce. That explains the 3 point signal and wave off.

nevermind ... I see one angle where he begins to wave off the shot before the ball hits the rim ... I'm not sure what he's thinking either.

Anyone know how this was resolved ... It looks like he was going to discuss with the Trail. Was the call changed?

deecee

Nevadaref wrote
Why would you EVER pass on a foul? (Your words.) I understand passing on contact if it doesn't cause a disadvantage, but what you wrote is just bizarre.
Please either call a foul or award the ball to the team which didn't touch it last.

Doing otherwise is unfair.

I meant on passing on contact that could be a foul depending on advantage/disadvantage.

Adam

JRutledge wrote
I do not see that as a big deal. He knows it is going to be a 3 point shot so I can understand the instinct to do that. But he never got the hand that high for that signal. I am more surprised why he waved off the shot than that little insignificant detail.

Peace

Agreed. I'll put a 3 up, because often times they get their feet set and start their motion before the horn even if the shot is late.

Adam

deecee wrote
I meant on passing on contact that could be a foul depending on advantage/disadvantage.

That is completely the opposite of what you said. You said you'd pass on the foul and give the ball to the wrong team. The old "saving a foul" mentality. If that's expected in your area (and it may well be), that's fine. But there's no point in trying to change what you said. That's not an advantage/disadvantage call. If anything, you're applying the A/D to the OOB play and just skipping the foul to give the ball to the right team.

No rules backing for this, but there may be this expectation where you work.

JetMetFan

HokiePaul wrote
Anyone know how this was resolved ... It looks like he was going to discuss with the Trail. Was the call changed?

I guess I should've mentioned that in the OP.

Nope, the call was not changed.

Raymond

Adam wrote
That is completely the opposite of what you said. You said you'd pass on the foul and give the ball to the wrong team. The old "saving a foul" mentality. If that's expected in your area (and it may well be), that's fine. But there's no point in trying to change what you said. That's not an advantage/disadvantage call. If anything, you're applying the A/D to the OOB play and just skipping the foul to give the ball to the right team.

No rules backing for this, but there may be this expectation where you work.

From what I've seen that expectation has gone away b/c of......what for it........YouTube.

JRutledge

BadNewsRef wrote
From what I've seen that expectation has gone away b/c of......what for it........YouTube.

Yep, too many phone cameras. 😉

Peace