Griner Dunk

JRutledge

I just saw a missed dunk from a Kansas player that was a lot worse than the Baylor play we are talking about and nothing was called. And no foul was given either.

Peace

canuckrefguy

JRutledge wrote
I am not seeing this slap on the backboard you are convinced that took place.

That's because it didn't happen.

Go to :29 of the video for the best look.

JRutledge

canuckrefguy wrote
That's because it didn't happen.

Go to :29 of the video for the best look.

If I have to go back to the video again to see something I never saw in the first place, then it must not have been significant for me to say was illegal. There is nothing in the rules that says touching the backboard is illegal, especially when it is inadvertent at best.

Peace

icallfouls

Brad wrote
Yes, she did. Her left hand. You can hear it also (because of the mics on the backboard)

Brad, you're making stuff up. What you hear is the rim snapping back. Her left hand gets caught in the net and never makes contact with backboard.

Maineac

bainsey wrote
In this neck of the woods, this would likely be a T.

Not in my neck of this neck of the woods.

HawkeyeCubP

Interesting how divided we are on this one.

I say no. Elbows barely bent beyond normal swinging motion.

just another ref

There are a hundred dunks a week in men's games which are this "excessive" on the rim and receive 0 attention.

bainsey

JRut's 10-3-3 wrote
Grasping either basket in an excessive, emphatic manner during the officials’ jurisdiction when the player is not, in the judgment of an official, trying to prevent an obvious injury to self or others.

Interesting. My NFHS 10-3-3 (2011-12) says...

(A player shall not) Grasp either basket at any time during the game except to prevent injury; dunk or stuff, or attempt to dunk or stuff a dead ball.

I see a notable difference here. Is yours from this year, JRut?

just another ref

bainsey wrote
Interesting. My NFHS 10-3-3 (2011-12) says...

I see a notable difference here. Is yours from this year, JRut?

NCAA rules 10-6-1f

JRutledge

bainsey wrote
Interesting. My NFHS 10-3-3 (2011-12) says...

I see a notable difference here. Is yours from this year, JRut?

Yes, and this was an NCAA game not a NF game.

Peace

bainsey

JRutledge wrote
Yes, and this was an NCAA game not a NF game.

Right, but the OP asked...

DesMoines wrote
If this were an NFHS game, does the player's action rise to the level of unsportsmanlike?

Unsportsmanlike conduct isn't actually relevant to the rule, so what I believe he's asking is whether the act rises to meet 10-3-3.

JRutledge

bainsey wrote
Right, but the OP asked...

Unsportsmanlike conduct isn't actually relevant to the rule, so what I believe he's asking is whether the act rises to meet 10-3-3.

My comments you responded to were not about the NF Rules. I was responding to Brad who was talking about the NCAA rule wording.

Not every comment or conversation is about the OP. 😉

Peace

DesMoines

I never dreamed this would generate so much discussion. Very interesting.

BTW: I'm headed to the Baylor-Tennessee women's game tonight here in Des Moines. We'll see if she dunks again.

Brad

icallfouls wrote
Brad, you're making stuff up. What you hear is the rim snapping back. Her left hand gets caught in the net and never makes contact with backboard.

It's clear as day to me ... of course, others sometimes have to wait for another angle of the video to be shown that I am right —*like in the goaltending thread from a few weeks back 😀

Camron Rust

Brad wrote
It's clear as day to me ... of course, others sometimes have to wait for another angle of the video to be shown that I am right —*like in the goaltending thread from a few weeks back 😃

I was one of those "others". However, my stance on the other was that the original video was too grainy to tell. On this one, that is not the case. Her hand came no where near hitting the backboard. If you're going to call a T on this one (and I don't think I would) it will not be for slapping the backboard.

Brad

Ok —*I take it back ... hadn't watched the rest of the video and was only looking at the first play. I think it's her elbow that hits and makes the sound ... but it's not her hand.

canuckrefguy

Brad wrote
Ok —*I take it back ... hadn't watched the rest of the video and was only looking at the first play. I think it's her elbow that hits and makes the sound ... but it's not her hand.

No way her elbow contacted the backboard.

Multiple Sports

A friend of mine worked the NCAA W tourney and this is what he said...............no way would a guy make that call if he wanted to move on. If a female makes the call it would be ok....but no way in hell is he hittin his whistle

Brad

canuckrefguy wrote
No way her elbow contacted the backboard.

Pretty sure it was her knee then.

Brad

Multiple Sports wrote
A friend of mine worked the NCAA W tourney and this is what he said...............no way would a guy make that call if he wanted to move on. If a female makes the call it would be ok....but no way in hell is he hittin his whistle

Interesting point.

I think that in this case the call would take away from the game. Women's basketball fans are excited that they have a player that can legitimately dunk. Let's everyone enjoy it before we start ringing them up!

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