Charles Barkley...

Zoochy

That would be a double violation. I assume the same for NCAA.

JetMetFan

Zoochy wrote
That would be a double violation. I assume the same for NCAA.

Yes. In both codes.

Adam

JetMetFan wrote
That's why someone invented the AP arrow. It's a double violation.

Figured you knew, the discussion just made me think of it.

Brad

Totally agree — thought Barkley was an idiot when I heard his comments last night.

I've always interpreted "Let the players decide the game." to mean "Don't call anything in the last minute or so of the game."

That is a stupid and asinine thought process.

Having Barkley commentate on NCAA games is also stupid and asinine!!

BillyMac

Snaqwells wrote
What do you do if B3 comes in from the arc on the release, then A1's shot airballs?

JetMetFan wrote
That's why someone invented the AP arrow. It's a double violation.

If it's a little bit before the release, then it could be disconcertion.

Freddy

Pumpy25 wrote
. . . he was waiting to call it, rather than focus on obvious fouls that happen, moving screens.

I saw the game and didn't notice any obvious fouls that happened which were overlooked, or moving screens that escaped anybody's focus.

Pumpy25 wrote
If its the letter of the law call traveling, palming, flopping, etc.

😕
I do, when necessary. Not merely "letter of the law" stuff, either. It's a "spirit of the law" thing, too. 🙂
I'm going out on a limb here, but I'm guessing your pregame includes the phrase, "I haven't called three seconds in six years...". Just a guess. 🙄

Adam

Freddy wrote
I'm going out on a limb here, but I'm guessing your pregame includes the phrase, "I haven't called three seconds in six years...". Just a guess. :rolleyes:

Look at you, giving the benefit of the doubt.

RefAHallic

As a Sixer fan Barkley is my favorite player of all time, but I can't stand that "let the players decide the game" crap. As if the player violating and the official appropriately penalizing the violation isn't allowing the players to decide the game. The player helped seal his team's fate with an elementary school violation of the rules. Plain and simple.

bainsey

For those that haven't seen the footage, here it is, complete with Notre Dame fanboy commentary for comic relief:

Sharpshooternes

I hate Barkley he was the biggest whiner in basketball in his day. Now it's Dirk Nowitsky (sp).

chymechowder

hahaha, that notre dame whiner sounds just like stevie from Eastbound and Down.

bainsey

A few people I know are crying "advantage/disadvantage" about that free-throw violation call. Had this been a high school game, I could argue that a/d applies to contact, not violations, but I'm not sure how valid this argument is in the college game. Thoughts?

Adam

bainsey wrote
A few people I know are crying "advantage/disadvantage" about that free-throw violation call. Had this been a high school game, I could argue that a/d applies to contact, not violations, but I'm not sure how valid this argument is in the college game. Thoughts?

Even the violations that aren't called by the letter (3 seconds, 10 second FT), I tend to use two criteria, either of which is enough for a call.

1. Advantage. Kid catches the ball after being in the paint well past my warning, for example.
2. Egregious. Kid simply ignores my warning and stays in the lane forever.

Brad

bainsey wrote
A few people I know are crying "advantage/disadvantage" about that free-throw violation call. Had this been a high school game, I could argue that a/d applies to contact, not violations, but I'm not sure how valid this argument is in the college game. Thoughts?

Advantage: The player that committed the violation got the rebound. Without violating he wouldn't have gotten there in time.

If you had seen the ball bounce off onto the other side of the lane, I'm not sure you would have seen the violation called.

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