Johnny Ringo BktBallRef wroteFoul and whistle came before the shot clock expired. Should have counted the basket and shot 1 FT. We're discussing it in the Chat Room. I thought it should have been no basket because ball had not left hand prior to time expiring, however two FTs because foul occurred prior.
fortmoney Johnny Ringo wroteI thought it should have been no basket because ball had not left hand prior to time expiring, however two FTs because foul occurred prior. The shotclock doesn't continue to run when a foul is called and 10 seconds left, so why should it run when there is 1 second left?
BktBallRef Johnny Ringo wroteI thought it should have been no basket because ball had not left hand prior to time expiring, however two FTs because foul occurred prior. The shot clock and game clock stop when a whistle blows. So how can the clock expire when the whistle is before the buzzer?
APG Johnny Ringo wroteI thought it should have been no basket because ball had not left hand prior to time expiring, however two FTs because foul occurred prior. Negative...count the basket and one...since the foul occurred before the shot clock expired, the clock should have stopped.
Johnny Ringo Good point. Then should the foul have been enforced? Foul happened prior to expiration of time.
Raymond tref wroteAre they using PTS? Not in the tourney. They never do. Sure would have prevented whatever is being discussed here. I haven't seen it yet.
tref BadNewsRef wroteNot in the tourney. They never do. Sure would have prevented whatever is being discussed here. I haven't seen it yet. Neither have I, gotta work 🙁
jbduke This error would have been correctable to start the half, no? I've been in the rulebook all half, and I'm struggling to see how it's not correctable. If I'm wrong, mea culpa to the crew (sort of). If I'm right, it's a double-whammy.
tref AllPurposeGamer wroteNegative...count the basket and one...since the foul occurred before the shot clock expired, the clock should have stopped. Do we have a CE situation here?
BktBallRef It's within the next dead ball time frame but I'm not sure how the end of the period plays in under NCAA rules. No matter, they didn't correct it. And Len Elmore is explaining to everyone how they got it right. 🙁
fortmoney BktBallRef wroteIt's within the next dead ball time frame but I'm not sure how the end of the period plays in under NCAA rules. No matter, they didn't correct it. And Len Elmore is explaining to everyone how they got it right. 🙁 That's what is making me mad. The crew just missed a goaltend against Cuse so now atleast the outcome of the game can't be blamed on this one call
BktBallRef fortmoney wrote...so now atleast the outcome of the game can't be blamed on this one call Wanna bet? Fans can always blame a loss on a call.
fortmoney BktBallRef wroteWanna bet? Fans can always blame a loss on a call. fans can, but at least I can rest knowing that there was at least one major missed call against both teams with similar results
APG fortmoney wrotefans can, but at least I can rest knowing that there was at least one major missed call against both teams with similar results One was a missed judgement call...the other was a misapplication of the rules. Two different categories.
JRutledge fortmoney wrotefans can, but at least I can rest knowing that there was at least one major missed call against both teams with similar results Fans will blame the first call on the game for the outcome. Who cares what fans think. No one call ever changes the outcome of a game. There are too many plays that if gone one way or the other have the same result. Peace
tref fortmoney wrotefans can, but at least I can rest knowing that there was at least one major missed call against both teams with similar results Two wrongs dont make it right & it will be interesting to see if they advance. You would think somebody on the crew knows its a CE or at least a buddy would call to help out.
Rich Someone want to explain to these jokers why a player can't run in from outside the 3-point line on the release?