I have a few questions for the NCAA refs

tref

rwest wrote
But I didn't understand it to mean when the ball is going the other way. If there is definitely no way that another official may whistle a foul on the play, then my main objection to it is irrelevant. However, at the high school level I see it more right after a shot is blocked. There is still a potential for a whistle. I guess its just one of those things we can disagree on. I don't like it and don't want younger officials getting into the habit. I guess you can argue that you are providing more information. You are saying you saw it and judged it was not a foul. However, my argument is that not calling the foul says the same thing.

I understand your point rwest. I didn't say "going the other way" because "after the play completes" is more accurate as we can have an offensive rebound that gets kicked back out to begin a new play on the same end.
I used to have that mindset, but what I noticed is that the great communicators of the game are generally the most successful.

Adam

tref wrote
I understand your point rwest. I didn't say "going the other way" because "after the play completes" is more accurate as we can have an offensive rebound that gets kicked back out to begin a new play on the same end.
I used to have that mindset, but what I noticed is that the great communicators of the game are generally the most successful.

Let me ask you this:
Are you offering the information without being asked? Or are you using the signal only on plays where the coach starts questioning a no-call?

tref

Snaqwells wrote
Let me ask you this:
Are you offering the information without being asked? Or are you using the signal only on plays where the coach starts questioning a no-call?

Snaqs I've been taught not to trouble trouble.

Adam

tref wrote
Snaqs I've been taught not to trouble trouble.

Okay, that's my philosophy, too. I've never had anything but trouble from offering information that wasn't requested. That's my main issue with this "signal," though, is that when I see it used, it's offered both too quickly and without any request for information.

rwest

snaqwells wrote
that's my main issue with this "signal," though, is that when i see it used, it's offered both too quickly and without any request for information.

+10000

tref

Snaqwells wrote
Okay, that's my philosophy, too. I've never had anything but trouble from offering information that wasn't requested. That's my main issue with this "signal," though, is that when I see it used, it's offered both too quickly and without any request for information.

Concur, I usually see it in lower level games & in the off-season. But they dont usually use the "gator chomp" its usually the communication tool for a tipped ball at the moment the blocked shot occurs... and thats when I come over the top with a foul. j/k 😀

Jeremy Hohn

JetMetFan wrote
Regarding #2: Most of my supervisors/assignors say don't do it because if another whistle comes from somewhere it creates all sorts of problems. I was always told if a kid blocks a shot and I don't do anything, that tells everyone in the gym the play was legal. Some people still do it because they can't break the habit.

I'll duck #1 since I'm NCAAW and this sounds like an NCAAM sort of question. NCAAW are, IMO, a bit more stringent on screens because that game is played below the rim, so screens in general have a bigger effect.

I work the Women's side and concur with the above...

onetime1

I have worked with a partner who does the "gator chomp" mechanic about 15 times per game and I never use it once.. I think that is kind of strange.

Adam

onetime1 wrote
I have worked with a partner who does the "gator chomp" mechanic about 15 times per game and I never use it once.. I think that is kind of strange.

Had a chance to use it last night in a ms game. Coach never asked why there wasn't a foul, though, so I didn't bother.

Multiple Sports

Used it a lot when I ws in hs school and I thought I was somebody.....further I moves up the ladder (DII &DIII) it has dissapeared. Why stick out and use an unauthorized mechanic, especially if you are with that guy who calls every 50/50 that you pass on. We all know who that guy is our leagues

That Guy

Multiple Sports wrote
Used it a lot when I ws in hs school and I thought I was somebody.....further I moves up the ladder (DII &DIII) it has dissapeared. Why stick out and use an unauthorized mechanic, especially if you are with that guy who calls every 50/50 that you pass on. We all know who that guy is our leagues

Hey, it needed calling. He got slapped on the wrist on his way by. They might need those free throws later.

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