"You suck"

jkumpire

that's the time you pull a bar of soap out of your pocket and give it to him with instructions to use it on his mouth.

But then a classroom teacher can't do that today, so what can you expect from MS students?

It's awful.

Maineac

"Whack! Get out!"

Adam

maineac wrote
"whack! Get out!" tm

fify

Maineac

Snaqwells wrote
fify

My apologies.... Thank you.

bainsey

So we all agree that's a flagrant in middle school.

High school?

Rich

bainsey wrote
So we all agree that's a flagrant in middle school.

High school?

Depends on the volume. If I am the only one that hears it, I may stick with just a technical. If the stands can hear it, he's done for.

In baseball, it would be an immediate ejection. I know it seems like a double standard, but we deal with those all the time. A basketball coach wouldn't get away with nearly as much as football coaches do.

Maineac

RichMSN wrote
A basketball coach wouldn't get away with nearly as much as football coaches do.

Absolutely agree.

refiator

Definitely a "T". Not so sure I'd rule it flagrant, unless it was loud enough for all to hear.

just another ref

From the definition of a flagrant foul:

".....a technical noncontact foul which displays unacceptable conduct."

I consider it to be unacceptable for a kid of any age to tell an official that he sucks.

Rich

just another ref wrote
From the definition of a flagrant foul:

".....a technical noncontact foul which displays unacceptable conduct."

I consider it to be unacceptable for a kid of any age to tell an official that he sucks.

That's great, but pretty much all technical fouls for unsportsmanlike conduct fit that description.

just another ref

RichMSN wrote
That's great, but pretty much all technical fouls for unsportsmanlike conduct fit that description.

If you feel that way, you should make pretty much all your technical fouls for unsportsmanlike conduct flagrant.

Rob1968

Player: "Ref, you suck!"
Official: "Only when I use a straw ... And, by the way, that's expensive!" ... Whack!

Rich

just another ref wrote
If you feel that way, you should make pretty much all your technical fouls for unsportsmanlike conduct flagrant.

If the conduct was acceptable, we wouldn't be calling a technical foul in the first place.

JRutledge

just another ref wrote
From the definition of a flagrant foul:

".....a technical noncontact foul which displays unacceptable conduct."

I consider it to be unacceptable for a kid of any age to tell an official that he sucks.

That means different things to different people and always will. There are some that want use to throw out players or coaches if they say "Jesus Christ." The problem is not everyone is a believer in the same religion or has the same values if they are. We can play that game with any number of words, not just these words.

Peace

APG

just another ref wrote
From the definition of a flagrant foul:

".....a technical noncontact foul which displays unacceptable conduct."

I consider it to be unacceptable for a kid of any age to tell an official that he sucks.

All noncontact technical fouls involves an act that is unacceptable conduct. You failed to include the latter part of the definition:

"If technical, it involves dead-ball contact or noncontact at any time which is extreme or persistent, vulgar or abusive conduct.

Adam

RichMSN wrote
If the conduct was acceptable, we wouldn't be calling a technical foul in the first place.

Exactly

NCHSAA

"You Suck"? Not vulgar in my opinion. Definitely at Tech though.

Now once a college player called me a S.O.B, needless to say that wasn't a hard decision to make.

Raymond

I have never called a flagrant T on anybody.

And in reflecting back on techs I have called I now realize I have never called a T on a coach for cursing. All the T's I've called on coaches have been for either outbursts and/or sideline antics.

Plenty of T's on players for cursing, but never anything flagrant or even close that I can remember.

APG

BadNewsRef wrote
I have never called a flagrant T on anybody.

And in reflecting back on techs I have called I now realize I have never called a T on a coach for cursing. All the T's I've called on coaches have been for either outbursts and/or sideline antics.

Plenty of T's on players for cursing, but never anything flagrant or even close that I can remember.

I have called exactly one...a player attempted to kick an opponent and missed.

JRutledge

BadNewsRef wrote
I have never called a flagrant T on anybody.

And in reflecting back on techs I have called I now realize I have never called a T on a coach for cursing. All the T's I've called on coaches have been for either outbursts and/or sideline antics.

Plenty of T's on players for cursing, but never anything flagrant or even close that I can remember.

I have called a Flagrant foul, but not a Flagrant T. I cannot imagine what words would be used that were not racial or gender driven that would require such an action from me. I am sure something will happen in my career, I just have not seen it yet.

Peace