Calling All Table Officials

Adam

chseagle wrote
Snaq, you are forgetting....

No, I didn't forget anything. Your situation has no bearing on what I do.

I have more issues in 5 games with the clock than I've had in my career with the scorebook.

APG

chseagle wrote
I'm meaning only one scorebook instead of two scorebooks.

Having two scorebooks at the table, is a checks & balances system.

Several times, in Sub-V games have I gone to both books during halftime & have found some discrepancies in either the score or the foul counts.

Snaq's point is that there's still one official book at both levels. If there's a discrepancy between two books, we always go with the official one unless we have direct knowledge or other mitigating circumstances.

chseagle

AllPurposeGamer wrote
Snaq's point is that there's still one official book at both levels. If there's a discrepancy between two books, we always go with the official one unless we have direct knowledge or other mitigating circumstances.

AKA an incompetent scorer or inattentive scorer.

Raymond

AllPurposeGamer wrote
Snaq's point is that there's still one official book at both levels. If there's a discrepancy between two books, we always go with the official one unless we have direct knowledge or other mitigating circumstances.

Shoot, some of the college games I've done have had 3 books at the table (in-season tournaments between neutral opponents).

26 Year Gap

BadNewsRef wrote
Shoot, some of the college games I've done have had 3 books at the table (in-season tournaments between neutral opponents).

Plus the TV book.:cool:

Raymond

26 Year Gap wrote
Plus the TV book.:cool:

Still waiting to get one of those games....LOL

All my televised games have been high school games broadcast on the local public school access channel. The games where they have to set up a special table in front of the stands for the announcers.

APG

BadNewsRef wrote
Shoot, some of the college games I've done have had 3 books at the table (in-season tournaments between neutral opponents).

Home book, away book, and stats keeper?

Raymond

AllPurposeGamer wrote
Home book, away book, and stats keeper?

Host school (official book), Team A, Team B.

BillyMac

After the scorer didn't tell me that we were in the bonus, which almost led to a correctable error situation, I asked her why she didn't tell me, to which she proclaimed, "It was on the scoreboard".

After the same scorer, in the same game, didn't tell me that a player fouled out, which led to a timeout/no timeout exchange with a coach, I asked her why she didn't tell me, to which she proclaimed, "It was on the scoreboard".

This was an adult, not a student.

Loudwhistle2

freddy wrote
since a good number of them frequent this discussion board . . .
quit putting the new team foul on the board before we report the foul!!! yeah, i am shouting! 😠
For about the fifth time this year we almost had a correctable error situation because, after whistling the foul and noting the sixth team foul tally on the board before reporting the foul to the table, we proceed to begin a one-and-one administration. Horn sounds to stop us and inform us that that was only the sixth team foul.
Table officials out there, spread it around. Please wait until after we report the foul to change or announce the new team foul tally. If it's five or nine team fouls, it's five or nine team fouls until we notify you that the next team foul has occurred.
Oh, and tell your announcer buddies to follow the same protocol. They're usually right there by you.
The best correctable error is one that is avoided.
There. I feel better.

26 Year Gap

BillyMac wrote
After the scorer didn't tell me that we were in the bonus, which almost led to a correctable error situation, I asked her why she didn't tell me, to which she proclaimed, "It was on the scoreboard".

After the same scorer, in the same game, didn't tell me that a player fouled out, which led to a timeout/no timeout exchange with a coach, I asked her why she didn't tell me, to which she proclaimed, "It was on the scoreboard".

This was an adult, not a student.

One of them would have done his job. One of them would have notified the coach, started the 20 seconds and notified the player.

chseagle

BillyMac wrote
After the scorer didn't tell me that we were in the bonus, which almost led to a correctable error situation, I asked her why she didn't tell me, to which she proclaimed, "It was on the scoreboard".

After the same scorer, in the same game, didn't tell me that a player fouled out, which led to a timeout/no timeout exchange with a coach, I asked her why she didn't tell me, to which she proclaimed, "It was on the scoreboard".

This was an adult, not a student.

Was the personnel in question a Blonde??

SCalScoreKeeper

I feel your pain BillyMac,
I don't understand what is so hard about putting five fingers in the air and asking the clock operator to hit the horn.My student scorekeepers know enough to get the referees attention when a kid fouls out or we reach the bonus.Its ridiculous when an adult does not.

Loudwhistle2

Jurassic Referee wrote
Fixed it for ya.

NCAA and NFHS:

Section 10. Duties of Timer
The official timer shall:
Art. 1.Flick a switch to start and stop the clock
Art. 2. Push some buttons to keep the score
Art. 3. STFU.

JR,
Have you ever thought about writing poetry? Priceless words and acronyms!

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