DQ Procedure

zm1283

mbyron wrote
1. Notify partners
2. Notify head coach
3. Start clock
4. If needed, notify player

We usually switch to have the non-calling official notify the HC and start the clock, etc.

Jurassic Referee

Snaqwells wrote
Ooh, ooh, I know.

Scrappy does too. Sooooooo.......

Shut up. 😀

fullor30

Snaqwells wrote

Ooh, ooh, I know.

Looks like my partner from a week ago. For every chop, his arm was this high and against his head, very comical.

bob jenkins

co2ice wrote
Notify head coach, then notify player. Then have the timer give you 20 seconds on the clock.

NOtify your partners, first. Otherwise, they'll have a tendancy to administer the FTs.

26 Year Gap

fullor30 wrote
Looks like my partner from a week ago. For every chop, his arm was this high and against his head, very comical.

Did he have the same kind of hat?

just another ref

Snaqwells wrote

Ooh, ooh, I know.

26 Year Gap wrote
Did he have the same kind of hat?

Snaq, I think he's making fun of your hat.

Adam

just another ref wrote
Snaq, I think he's making fun of your hat.

Epstein's mother says to shut up.

26 Year Gap

Snaqwells wrote
Epstein's mother says to shut up.

Your lips are moving.

Rich

co2ice wrote
Notify head coach, then notify player. Then have the timer give you 20 seconds on the clock.

It's coach, then clock, then player. Otherwise, you're giving the coach time not warranted. The 20 seconds is *not* a free timeout -- we *are* going to be ready to go with a sub by the second horn.

Manual or no manual, we (me and the people I work with) notify the coach on our own DQ fouls in our games here.

stiffler3492

Is there some sort of penalty for not being ready after the 20 second period?

Adam

stiffler3492 wrote
is there some sort of penalty for not being ready after the 20 second period?

10-5-2

constable

BktBallRef wrote
Because in 2-man, the NFHS Officials Manual requires the non-calling official to notify the coach and the player.

Had this discussion today at our Christmas meeting. The executive stated that if it's an obvious DQ and it's not a close game and the coach is already getting ready to sub his player not to waste time by not having non-calling official come over and do the notification. This is especially helpful if your association is ignoring the FED mechanic and still switches on every foul.

Jurassic Referee

stiffler3492 wrote
Is there some sort of penalty for not being ready after the 20 second period?

Case book play 10.5.2SitB(c) + what Snaqs cited

BillyMac

RichMSN wrote
The 20 seconds is not a free timeout, we are going to be ready to go with a sub by the second horn.

Just want to confirm that the word "not" is modifying the word "timeout". RichMSN is correct. Do not treat this like a timeout. There are important differences in terms of allowing substitutions during this time interval. The "warning" horn has a different meaning here.

Adam

constable wrote
Had this discussion today at our Christmas meeting. The executive stated that if it's an obvious DQ and it's not a close game and the coach is already getting ready to sub his player not to waste time by not having non-calling official come over and do the notification. This is especially helpful if your association is ignoring the FED mechanic and still switches on every foul.

Sounds like they're just asking for trouble here.

bob jenkins

Snaqwells wrote
Sounds like they're just asking for trouble here.

Like what?

My pregame usually includes "if a team is fouling at the end of the game to stop the clock, and everyone knows it, just stay there and deal with it. If there's any controversy, go away and let someone else handle the DQ."

Of course, I did have a T in this situation earlier this year.

Adam

bob jenkins wrote
Like what?

My pregame usually includes "if a team is fouling at the end of the game to stop the clock, and everyone knows it, just stay there and deal with it. If there's any controversy, go away and let someone else handle the DQ."

Of course, I did have a T in this situation earlier this year.

I misread; I read it that they were skipping the notification entirely.

Rich

BillyMac wrote
Just want to confirm that the word "not" is modifying the word "timeout". RichMSN is correct. Do not treat this like a timeout. There are important differences in terms of allowing substitutions during this time interval. The "warning" horn has a different meaning here.

It's modifying "free" and "timeout". Coaches can call the players over, but on the first horn, I'm in the huddle telling the coach I need a sub NOW. That usually means I'm right in there, since notifying the player usually takes about 5 seconds. The coach doesn't want that second horn going off before a player is at the table. That's the key difference, to me -- I will give a little leeway on timeouts because we have the resumption of play procedure if I need it.

26 Year Gap

BillyMac wrote
Just want to confirm that the word "not" is modifying the word "timeout". RichMSN is correct. Do not treat this like a timeout. There are important differences in terms of allowing substitutions during this time interval. The "warning" horn has a different meaning here.

An 'interval of time' is how my past interpreter put it.

mbyron

26 Year Gap wrote
An 'interval of time' is how my past interpreter put it.

Was his redundancy deliberate?

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