nightmare of a partner

APG

mikeb wrote
Second half the home team is down 14 and they come back in the 4th quarter he called about 3 or 4 you could tell continuation buckets plus the foul which turned to be a game changer!!

What exactly do you mean by this statement?

Sco53

Mike- When we're on the court we're judged as a team, not individuals. It's both (or all) of our responsibilities to make sure the game is officiated as accurately as possible, despite the shortcomings we all face in one aspect or another. Keep on track and working hard.

Adam

AllPurposeGamer wrote
What exactly do you mean by this statement?

I was wondering the same thing; I see more officials err on the side of not counting a basket than the other way.

APG

Snaqwells wrote
I was wondering the same thing; I see more officials err on the side of not counting a basket than the other way.

Most definitely. There are a lot of fans and coaches (and unfortunately too many officials) that incorrectly deem a foul "on the floor" even though that has nothing to do with the call.

Rationale for calling it that way..."This ain't the NBA!" 🙄

Adam

AllPurposeGamer wrote
Most definitely. There are a lot of fans and coaches (and unfortunately too many officials) that incorrectly deem a foul "on the floor" even though that has nothing to do with the call.

Rationale for calling it that way..."This ain't the NBA!" :rolleyes:

Retort: "True, but the rule is virtually the same for both."

APG

Snaqwells wrote
Retort: "True, but the rule is virtually the same for both."

Haha yeah...I can and have used this line on a coach. Still doesn't make it easy when a partner comes in gunsablazin' waving off a shot and yelling "on the floor!" on a similar type play...

That's what pregame/halftime/post-games are for. 😀

mikeb

AllPurposeGamer wrote
What exactly do you mean by this statement?

What i meant by that was, A1 would dribble in the lane get bumped (whistle) dribble dribble shoot, count the basket. Obvious on the floor calls.

Rich

Snaqwells wrote
I was wondering the same thing; I see more officials err on the side of not counting a basket than the other way.

Me too. Tough when you're working with someone who incorrectly waves one off and then you count one just a few minutes later.

mikeb

Ya I just asked if had any questions and i said good job after like i normally would. Your right im not going to get down on the man. Even though he was an older gentleman i would guess 40s or 50s so he cant be that out of it. But i have another this week with him. So we will see how it goes, but the players, coaches, and fans new he was out of sync and took advantage of it. But ill keep yall updated. But your right im not going to look like a donkey ya know telling him what he should do

APG

mikeb wrote
What i meant by that was, A1 would dribble in the lane get bumped (whistle) dribble dribble shoot, count the basket. Obvious on the floor calls.

Two points...

1. If the play happened as you said it did, that wouldn't count under NBA rules (which I'm assuming was what you were referencing by "continuation calls")

2. Avoid using "on the floor." The fact that the foul happened while the player was on the floor has no bearing on whether a foul is a shooting foul or not. It's all about the habitual shooting motion. If something must be said, "before the shot" would be better.

Adam

allpurposegamer wrote
two points...

1. If the play happened as you said it did, that wouldn't count under nba rules (which i'm assuming was what you were referencing by "continuation calls")

2. Avoid using "on the floor." the fact that the foul happened while the player was on the floor has no bearing on whether a foul is a shooting foul or not. It's all about the habitual shooting motion. If something must be said, "before the shot" would be better.

BillyMac

AllPurposeGamer wrote
Avoid using "On The Floor."

Agree. These three words should never be used by officials in describing a continuation play and the act of shooting.

I prefer, "No shot".

zm1283

BillyMac wrote
Agree. These three words should never be used by officials in describing a continuation play and the act of shooting.

I prefer, "No shot".

I use "No shot" as well and wave off the shot before giving the preliminary signal for the foul followed by the throw-in spot or signal how many shots we're shooting for the bonus.

APG

BillyMac wrote
Agree. These three words should never be used by officials in describing a continuation play and the act of shooting.

I prefer, "No shot".

I'll use this too along with the mechanics zm1283 described...the important thing is getting rid of the phrase, "on the floor." 😀

bob jenkins

BillyMac wrote
Agree. These three words should never be used by officials in describing a continuation play and the act of shooting.

I prefer, "No shot".

Well, there usually is a shot. So, I say "before the shot."

mbyron

Snaqwells wrote
+7

Whatever happened to "one man, one vote"? 🙁

Scrapper1

mbyron wrote
Whatever happened to "one man, one vote"? 🙁

It went out with the 19th Amendment.

tomegun

Mike,

Like others have said, we were all there at one time. I found your post somewhat hard to read. I don't think I'm alone and that is why some people didn't understand what you mean. The other thing, if you don't think he did a good job, why tell him he did? I have a growing list of things we do as officials for the sake of tradition that are useless. Telling someone they did a good job instead of "nice working with you" or being honest is on that list. Who does it help to tell someone something that isn't true?

Adam

tomegun wrote
Mike,

Like others have said, we were all there at one time. I found your post somewhat hard to read. I don't think I'm alone and that is why some people didn't understand what you mean. The other thing, if you don't think he did a good job, why tell him he did? I have a growing list of things we do as officials for the sake of tradition that are useless. Telling someone they did a good job instead of "nice working with you" or being honest is on that list. Who does it help to tell someone something that isn't true?

I almost always say "nice working with you," because it's almost always true. Whether I worked with a rookie on his 2nd game, or a veteran in his 42nd year, I typically enjoy myself.

Camron Rust

mbyron wrote
Whatever happened to "one man, one vote"? 🙁

He's a democrat.