NCAA Ruling on hand to mouth for Pitchers

pastordoug

Quick question: FED rules prohibit pitcher from going to his mouth without first wiping it off before handling ball (off rubber). What is the NCAA rule on that? Does he have to wipe off first or doesn't matter? And is there a difference in when he does (off the dirt vs on?). Thanks

(Reason for question is I'm watching the Alabama/Vandy game and the Vandy pitcher goes directly from his month to ball.... Just curious

bob jenkins

If the pitcher is not in contact with the pitcher's rubber, the pitcher may go to the mouth while in the dirt area, ; however the pitcher must wipe off the fingers before pitching.

I heard that OBR has changed to be the same (no longer is F1 rewquired to be off the dirt).

bob jenkins

If the pitcher is not in contact with the pitcher's rubber, the pitcher may go to the mouth while in the dirt area, ; however the pitcher must wipe off the fingers before pitching.

I heard that OBR has changed to be the same (no longer is F1 rewquired to be off the dirt).

ManInBlue

The only time I saw him go to his mouth, he wiped his hand on his leg before addressing the rubber. I obviouly missed what you saw. I'm sure he went to his mouth more than once.

My thought process was more to the "huh, he can do that on the dirt. I didn't realize that. I thought NCAA was off the dirt like OBR, Guess I was wrong."

ozzy6900

bob jenkins wrote
If the pitcher is not in contact with the pitcher's rubber, the pitcher may go to the mouth while in the dirt area, ; however the pitcher must wipe off the fingers before pitching.

I heard that OBR has changed to be the same (no longer is F1 rewquired to be off the dirt).

I still show the OBR rule to be as follows:
OBR 8.02 The pitcher shall not—
(a) (1) Bring his pitching hand in contact with his mouth or lips while in the 18 foot circle surrounding the pitching rubber.
EXCEPTION: Provided it is agreed to by both managers, the umpire prior to the start of a game played in cold weather, may permit the pitcher to blow on his hand.
PENALTY: For violation of this part of this rule the umpires shall immediately call a ball. However, if the pitch is made and a batter reaches first base on a hit, an error, a hit batsman or otherwise, and no other runner is put out before advancing at least one base, the play shall proceed without reference to the violation. Repeated offenders shall be subject to a fine by the league president.

UmpJM

ozzy,

That's certainly what the rules posted on the MLB.com website still say.

However, the document linked below, which I found posted on the Wendelstedt Umpire School Forum, supports what Bob says.

http://umpschool.websitetoolbox.com/file?id=953138

mrm21711

ozzy6900 wrote
I still show the OBR rule to be as follows:
OBR 8.02 The pitcher shall not—
(a) (1) Bring his pitching hand in contact with his mouth or lips while in the 18 foot circle surrounding the pitching rubber.

That was changed this year as part of their "speed up" rule changes

Forest Ump

Wow. That's the first I have heard of this rule change. So this now matches NCAA.

ozzy6900

UmpJM (nee CoachJM) wrote
ozzy,

That's certainly what the rules posted on the MLB.com website still say.

However, the document linked below, which I found posted on the Wendelstedt Umpire School Forum, supports what Bob says.

http://umpschool.websitetoolbox.com/file?id=953138

JM

Gentlemen, this is all well and good but when Summer ball and Legion comes, this document is useless unless the rule is changed in the book. To my knowledge, this has not been done yet.

Rich Ives

UmpJM (nee CoachJM) wrote
ozzy,

That's certainly what the rules posted on the MLB.com website still say.

However, the document linked below, which I found posted on the Wendelstedt Umpire School Forum, supports what Bob says.

http://umpschool.websitetoolbox.com/file?id=953138

JM

Thanks.

WOW - the max bat diameter got changed ro 2.61" (less than 2 5/8"). Any clue as to why?

7.08(e) got changed to match 6.05(j) so now "tie goes to the runner" technically applies at all bases ;-)

If you are in the batter's box and unintentionally interfere with a batted ball it's foul. Not a change. BUT If one foot is out of the box it is interference - change from past practice.

Pitcher can go to mouth on the dirt (not on the plate) as long as he clearly wipes.

9.02(c) made into a God rule.

bossman72

ozzy6900 wrote
Gentlemen, this is all well and good but when Summer ball and Legion comes, this document is useless unless the rule is changed in the book. To my knowledge, this has not been done yet.

I don't think they've published the 2010 rule book on paperback yet...

ozzy6900

bossman72 wrote
I don't think they've published the 2010 rule book on paperback yet...

As many "interpretations", items and "rulings" from Evans....... I'll believe it when I see it in print!

Also note, that PDF from Evans has no notation of being approved by MLB, either!

TussAgee11

OBR ruling is still dirt circle, regardless of wipe. Haven't seen anything in print to change what is in the book.