Worst game of the year last night

Jurassic Referee

Snaqwells wrote
In this case, it's a technical due to the previously issued DOG warning. 🙂

Nope, still an intentional personal foul. See case book play 10.3.10SitA(a)+ COMMENT. 🙂

bob jenkins

Mark Padgett wrote
Snaq brings up an interesting point. Say team A already has one DOG warning. On a spot throw in for team B, A1 reaches over and fouls B1 who has the ball to inbound. Is it an intentional foul plus a technical for the second DOG warning, or just one or the other?

Just the former

Mark Padgett

bob jenkins wrote
Just the former

Thanks. If there had been no previous DOG warning, would the intentional count as the first, similar to if the defender hit the ball for a technical that counts as the first (if no previous)?

Adam

Jurassic Referee wrote
Nope, still an intentional personal foul. See case book play 10.3.10SitA(a)+ COMMENT. 🙂

Interesting, the case says nothing about whether a warning had been issued. I must have misremembered this one.

bob jenkins

Mark Padgett wrote
Thanks. If there had been no previous DOG warning, would the intentional count as the first, similar to if the defender hit the ball for a technical that counts as the first (if no previous)?

Yes.

A Pennsylvania Coach

I'm guessing this line is causing some confusion:

V42 almost hugs the thrower, with both arms two feet over the line.

I didn't judge V42 to have contacted the thrower. When I say "almost hugs" I'm trying to describe the position some young, new players take when trying to guard someone, with both arms out on either side of the player they are defending.

Jurassic Referee

A Pennsylvania Coach wrote
I didn't judge V42 to have contacted the thrower. When I say "almost hugs" I'm trying to describe the position some young, new players take when trying to guard someone, with both arms out on either side of the player they are defending.

Yup, the "almost hugs with both arms" implied physical contact to me. No contact = team "T" as per 10-1-5(c)...which was your (correct) call.

Loudwhistle

Some of the only good I can see for you from this experience is that when you get a good partner(s) you will appreciate them all the more. I've had a few games and partners like this and the whole time I'm thinking, man this game can't get over with soon enough. (Most HS games, I'm excited and so focused through the whole thing that my head spins when I finally go home and sit for a while. Real close varsity boys drains me for a while.) On a postive note from your post, I learned something about an intentional foul that I was wrong about. I didn't have to blow it in a game. Maybe you can thank your partner for me when you see him?? 😀

fiasco

Jurassic Referee wrote
Yup, the "almost hugs with both arms" implied physical contact to me. No contact = team "T" as per 10-1-5(c)...which was your (correct) call.

Wait....wasn't this the first throw-in plane violation? Did I miss the first one in the OP?

Jurassic Referee

fiasco wrote
Wait....wasn't this the first throw-in plane violation? Did I miss the first one in the OP?

Yup, somewhere in the OP he stated that he called a DOG warning on both teams in the third quarter. So, the "T" was for the second plane violation.

fiasco

Jurassic Referee wrote
Yup, somewhere in the OP he stated that he called a DOG warning on both teams in the third quarter. So, the "T" was for the second plane violation.

Ah, yes, I found it:

2) I finally called a delay of game warnings on each team for breaking the plane.

APC, you probably should have nipped this in the bud early in the game, as you said:

it seemed like everyone defending the inbound wanted to reach across the line or come close.

Even with girls who don't know basketball all that well, a Technical Foul will usually get their attention, if you explain why you're issuing the T. First time it happens, warn them. Next time, T them up.

icallfouls

A Pennsylvania Coach wrote
Freshman/8th grade girls doubleheader.

Agreed 🙂