Jewelry rule causes yelling

Forksref

Ignats75 wrote
"Well, the referee last week let us tape them. What, you hate little girls or are you just power mad?" :mad::mad::mad: (Ok, I made that last sentence up.)

Both.

But, seriously folks, the coach sets the tone with explaining the rules at the beginning of the season. There should never be any uniform/jewelry issues when the team comes on the floor!

chseagle

I had a similar situation last year for a Girls' C-Squad game, only it was metal bobbie pins & butterfly clips in the hair. She went through warmups and nothing was said. It wasn't till she came to the table to sub-in, that I noticed it, buzzed the floor officials about it & they gave the coach a warning about not following uniform rules/regulations.

How I understand the rules/regulations, only prewrap, scrunchies, headbands, or hairbands are to be used for hair control. (nothing metal in the hair).

The player went back to the bench, with the coach complaining she'd been allowed to play like that all season until then. The coach put tape over every piece of exposed metal object that couldn't be removed & she was allowed to played after that.

chartrusepengui

I hate that they allowed VB players to wear 2 inch bobby pins this year. I've gotten the look and the whine several times this. I've been told I have not kept up with the rules because this year "you can wear bobby pins in your hair". (like, where else would you wear them?) They know it's the rule now because "the volleyball officials told them it was new and it was ok." 🙄

jeschmit

JRutledge wrote
Let us stop this myth right now. It is not impossible to remove earrings or studs that were used to pierce your ear. I had both my ears pierced years ago (before I officiated) and you can take them out for a short period and put them back it. It might hurt, but it is possible. And sports are a privilege, not a right. So it is a simple choice.

Peace

I have my cartilage pierced on my left year, and I have not put an earring in it for over a year due to officiating... I just put it in with no problems. And cartilage is supposed to close up faster than ear lobes!

bob jenkins

chseagle wrote
I had a similar situation last year for a Girls' C-Squad game, only it was metal bobbie pins & butterfly clips in the hair. She went through warmups and nothing was said. It wasn't till she came to the table to sub-in, that I noticed it, buzzed the floor officials about it & they gave the coach a warning about not following uniform rules/regulations.

How I understand the rules/regulations, only prewrap, scrunchies, headbands, or hairbands are to be used for hair control. (nothing metal in the hair).

The player went back to the bench, with the coach complaining she'd been allowed to play like that all season until then. The coach put tape over every piece of exposed metal object that couldn't be removed & she was allowed to played after that.

1) Not your job.

2) Taping over it doesn't make it legal.

Ignats75

Mark Padgett wrote
How do you check for that? 😉

When she shot her free throws the pink clashed w the green jersey. (in the armholes)

chseagle

bob jenkins wrote
1) Not your job.

2) Taping over it doesn't make it legal.

Actually, Most, if not all, the floor officials I've worked with have appreciated the fact that I've kept myself up to date on uniform regulations & catching things that wouldn't of been caught otherwise.

I've done the same thing during dead ball situations where a player is on the floor with the jersey untucked.

Everyone's human & the small things do get missed when there's a lot of action going on. It wouldn't surprise me much if when on the floor, every floor official has, at least once, not noticed a uniform untucked or not to code.

The situation I mentioned happens maybe once every 50-100 games. It's not something that happens all the time. I cannot help if I'm that observant. During that situation, the floor officials were very thankful that I saw that.

Doesn't it help if a person gives friendly reminders for what to look for?

Ignats75

Are You turning in the other team? Because that can make you look adversarial.

chseagle

Ignats75 wrote
Are You turning in the other team? Because that can make you look adversarial.

When I'm doing scoreboard/timer, I'm neutral, I'll report either team if I see an infraction.

Last year, I almost got my alma mater an administrative technical due to the person doing scorebook had their friends sitting with them & distracting them from their duties. (They got a warning, & other event personnel came to the table asking those not working the table to leave the area)

I have told the floor officials that I've worked with, that although I may be at volunteering at my alma mater, I am neutral & will report what I've seen if it doesn't correspond to rules/regulations no matter who the team. They appreciate that

Raymond

chseagle wrote
I've done the same thing during dead ball situations where a player is on the floor with the jersey untucked.

:eek::eek::eek:

And what exactly is it that you do in this situation?

You say you have read the rule book. Have you read Rule 2 thoroughly?

grunewar

CHS - While I understand what you're doing and how you're trying to do it, I'm not so sure I want an OOS (Overly Officious Scorekeeper) working the table.....

Ignats75

Wannaree. n wa na REE.
1. A civilian who wants to be a referee without putting their butt on the line.

jdw3018

chseagle wrote
I've done the same thing during dead ball situations where a player is on the floor with the jersey untucked.

An unsafe item (like metal hair pins) is one thing - I'm not sure I'm all about a scorer/timer noting that, but to each their own.

But noting an untucked shirt - simply out of line. I wouldn't appreciate it. In fact, I'd likely tell you where to put your observation. And I'd guess most officials telling you they appreciate your noting something like that are simply being nice/tolerant.

I think it was you that mentioned in another thread that you keep a copy of the duties of the scorer and timer at the table. I'd stick to those duties.

chseagle

BadNewsRef wrote
:eek::eek::eek:

And what exactly is it that you do in this situation?

You say you have read the rule book. Have you read Rule 2 thoroughly?

The rules I use are those listed off the NFHS Site for public viewing, as well as the Online Rules Clinic on the WIAA Site that's for public viewing.

When I let the floor officials know of the uniform or other thing I notice, I wait until a dead ball or a reporting occurs. If that player is subbed for, I let the book know that their coach needs to let that player know of their jersey. I wish I had access to the case book & rule book, unfortunately I do not.

just another ref

chseagle, I've gotta ask. Is there a reason why you do no become an official yourself? You seem to be starved for more responsibility/authority/power.

Ignats75

You keep time. Stop the clock when I blow my whistle and start it when I chop. That's your job. Mine is to officiate the game. Never the twain shall meet. 🙄 I'm not sure the coaches would view you any differently than a fan screaming from the stands.

chseagle

grunewar wrote
CHS - While I understand what you're doing and how you're trying to do it, I'm not so sure I want an OOS (Overly Officious Scorekeeper) working the table.....

I'm training myself not to do things like this all the time. I only do it when it looks to be a safety risk to those on the floor, or it's clearly visible. I believe in the "Out of sight. out of mind", so if it'd hardly noticeable I don't worry about it.

Raymond

chseagle wrote
The rules I use are those listed off the NFHS Site for public viewing, as well as the Online Rules Clinic on the WIAA Site that's for public viewing.

When I let the floor officials know of the uniform or other thing I notice, I wait until a dead ball or a reporting occurs. If that player is subbed for, I let the book know that their coach needs to let that player know of their jersey. I wish I had access to the case book & rule book, unfortunately I do not.

Well, not to sound rude, but if it were my game after the first time I would ask you to refrain from such activity.

chseagle

just another ref wrote
chseagle, I've gotta ask. Is there a reason why you do no become an official yourself? You seem to be starved for more responsibility/authority/power.

I would like to be a floor official, however I am unsure if my health will allow me.

Also right now, I do not have reliable transportation to attend training & meetings or assignments.

just another ref

chseagle wrote
I would like to be a floor official, however I am unsure if my health will allow me.

Also right now, I do not have reliable transportation to attend training & meetings or assignments.

Yet you find a way to get to games and do crowd control and provide warnings of untucked jerseys. Interesting.

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