end of game, scoring a bucket for the other team

JugglingReferee

Snaqwells wrote
Frankly, I don't see how this is at all advantageous to the leading team. With a 4 point lead, have your PG hold the ball once it's passed in and just stand there. Worst case, he gets fouled, shoots free throws, and they still have a 4 point lead with 2 seconds left and a full court to travel.

Throwing the ball in the air would be more advantageous. Worst case, defense catches it and makes a three pointer; game over with a single point win.

No, if anything, the OP is taunting; and that's a pretty big stretch that would need to be determined by the officials on the court depending on other circumstances. If you go with taunting, you now have A down by 2, shooting two technical shots, then getting the ball at half court with 2 seconds left. Hmmmm.

Most likely, just blow it dead, do the directional announcement thing; and when coach asks what you're doing just tell him you thought the kids were confused so you made sure everyone had it right. What's he going to say? "My kids weren't confused."

There's no drama in this method though.

Imagine the excitement if you call a taunting T! 😮

just another ref

Bottom line: I cannot envision the situation where scoring for the other team, intentionally or otherwise, would result in a technical foul.

jkjenning

BillyMac wrote
Did you know that, according to cellphone records, jkjenning talked to Tim Donaghy over 130 times during last season?

Tom was calling me, so I can't possibly be implicated! 🙂

jkjenning

Snaqwells wrote
No, if anything, the OP is taunting; and that's a pretty big stretch that would need to be determined by the officials on the court depending on other circumstances. If you go with taunting, you now have A down by 2, shooting two technical shots, then getting the ball at half court with 2 seconds left. Hmmmm.

I took it to be celebratory and a bit taunting, then, to take a last-minute layup at your opponent's basket. It wasn't the right context for a T but it did seem arguable. I don't think the coach had anything to do with it, just the players inbounding the ball realizing they could not score at their own basket in time, so they put the ball into the opponent's goal. It made me wonder about under what circumstances a T might be a correct call, if ever... probably would have to be accompanied by some other gestures.

just another ref

jkjenning wrote
I don't think the coach had anything to do with it, just the players inbounding the ball realizing they could not score at their own basket in time, so they put the ball into the opponent's goal.

I think I speak for us all when I say: HUH?

jkjenning

just another ref wrote
I think I speak for us all when I say: HUH?

Huh, what? They inbounded the ball, wanted another shot at a basket but were not going to get off a shot at their own basket before the buzzer, so they laid it in the opponent's basket... what was unclear about hat? 😕

Adam

just another ref wrote
Bottom line: I cannot envision the situation where scoring for the other team, intentionally or otherwise, would result in a technical foul.

It would need to be accompanied by some other actions or words, or it would have to be the culmination of other things. Would I be likely to call it? Not unless the situation was extreme and warranted it.

But I can envision it. Kids can get creative with this stuff.

Adam

jkjenning wrote
I took it to be celebratory and a bit taunting, then, to take a last-minute layup at your opponent's basket. It wasn't the right context for a T but it did seem arguable. I don't think the coach had anything to do with it, just the players inbounding the ball realizing they could not score at their own basket in time, so they put the ball into the opponent's goal. It made me wonder about under what circumstances a T might be a correct call, if ever... probably would have to be accompanied by some other gestures.

It seems more celebratory to me. Sounds like a word to the coach might be in order, but since I'd be bee-lining for the door at the buzzer, I doubt I'd say anything.

BillyMac

Snaqwells wrote
Sounds like a word to the coach might be in order, but since I'd be bee-lining for the door at the buzzer, I doubt I'd say anything.

You mean you didn't hang around to watch the postgame handshake? I bet the game wasn't in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.

BillyMac

Snaqwells wrote
It seems more celebratory to me.

Rookies take note. If the ball is shot before the buzzer goes off, but doesn't enter the basket until after the buzzer sounds, the basket doesn't count, because it's not a legal try. And, of course, if a player is confused enough to foul the shooter ... Never mind, my head is starting to hurt.

just another ref

Snaqwells wrote
It would need to be accompanied by some other actions or words, or it would have to be the culmination of other things. Would I be likely to call it? Not unless the situation was extreme and warranted it.

But I can envision it. Kids can get creative with this stuff.

Exactly. I think even if the team was offended by the shot, in and of itself, the two points would be compensation enough. If the shooter yells, "Here's two points for you, ya bunch of losers," this would warrant a technical whether the shot is actually taken or not.

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