high pitch scream in shooters face a "T"

Danvrapp

Originally posted by Richard Ogg
... disconcertion. We can assume the charge is against the defense, so if the shot misses, we shoot again.

Field goals are a different issue. I hate the screaming but ignore it. I probably would act on screaming right in someone's ear based on safety.

I agree with this one. I believe that disconcertion is a POE this year, and I certainly think this qualifies. Of course, I suppose if it's done repeatedly you could argue the T for safety sake, but it'd be a tough call. I'd just keep re-shootin' 'em!

Jurassic Referee

What is the call if players on B's bench scream at the foul shooter during the attempt,and the shot is missed?

ScottParks

The answer, according to the state rules guys who taught the association rules clinic this year.... this is nothing. No disconcertion on the bench.

ChuckElias

Originally posted by parkssa
The answer, according to the state rules guys who taught the association rules clinic this year.... this is nothing. No disconcertion on the bench.

Really? Why not? Rule 9-1-5 says that "no opponent shall disconcert the free thrower". It doesn't say opposing "player". An opponent is anybody on the "other" bench. It seems to me that you could have disconcertion on a substitute or even a coach.

Chuck

mick

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
What is the call if players on B's bench scream at the foul shooter during the attempt,and the shot is missed?

JR,
Welcome to the forum. Glad you found the way.

What's the call? It's our call. We adjudge.

• Disconcertion > another throw
• Unsporting > a technical

Personally, I'll warn before I penalize.
mick

ScottParks

Originally posted by ChuckElias

Originally posted by parkssa
The answer, according to the state rules guys who taught the association rules clinic this year.... this is nothing. No disconcertion on the bench.

Really? Why not? Rule 9-1-5 says that "no opponent shall disconcert the free thrower". It doesn't say opposing "player". An opponent is anybody on the "other" bench. It seems to me that you could have disconcertion on a substitute or even a coach.

Chuck

I can't give you a better answer than what I wrote. Because of the conversation on this board and others, I specifically asked the question. I don't necessarily agree with it, but that's the answer I received.

Mark Padgett

Originally posted by parkssa

I can't give you a better answer than what I wrote. Because of the conversation on this board and others, I specifically asked the question. I don't necessarily agree with it, but that's the answer I received.

What state are you in? I never let benchwarmers stomp and scream at a free-throw shooter. They get one warning. I've never had to go beyond that, and I've never had their coach complain about the warning.

ScottParks

Originally posted by Mark Padgett

Originally posted by parkssa

I can't give you a better answer than what I wrote. Because of the conversation on this board and others, I specifically asked the question. I don't necessarily agree with it, but that's the answer I received.

What state are you in? I never let benchwarmers stomp and scream at a free-throw shooter. They get one warning. I've never had to go beyond that, and I've never had their coach complain about the warning.

TASO

MattKerns

IF the game was as closely contested as you indicate, certainly a bit of preventative work could have addressed the issue before the T; i.e., during a FT or TO, a word to this player that the act could be unsportsmanlike and penalized, and therefore should cease results in two affects. Without drawing attention to yourself, you've managed the situation and the game continues without further incident and the player will have LEARNED from an official...something we all should strive to impart from our experience with kids at the high school level.

williebfree

This embodies my attitude about handling this situation to a "T" (Pardon the pun).

Originally posted by MattKerns
IF the game was as closely contested as you indicate, certainly a bit of preventative work could have addressed the issue before the T; i.e., during a FT or TO, a word to this player that the act could be unsportsmanlike and penalized, and therefore should cease results in two affects. Without drawing attention to yourself, you've managed the situation and the game continues without further incident and the player will have LEARNED from an official...something we all should strive to impart from our experience with kids at the high school level.

Jeremy Hohn

To me that involves a non-basketball play. Warn after the first time.."T" it up the next...

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