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Originally posted by Camron Rust
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Originally posted by blindzebra
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Originally posted by Camron Rust
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Originally posted by blindzebra
The count starts when the ball is at the disposal, under normal play that is when the ball comes out of the net and the throwing team controls the ball.
Again this is under normal conditions, I'm not waiting until they get OOBs to start this count.
Check out CB 4.43.3.
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In a typcial case, it takes a player ~2 seconds to get OOB and get turned around for the throwin. Are you seriously telling me you only give them 3 seconds left from the time they could make a legal throwin to release the throwin? Sounds like a recipie for a T.
Furthermore, the casebook's only reference to "at the disposal" is for when the ball is bouncing around when no player has picked it up. The comment also mentions that the official should give teh team a moment or two in this case.
[Edited by Camron Rust on Jun 5th, 2005 at 06:32 AM]
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2 seconds to go 4 feet and turn around?
You must count like a jack-rabbit.
Seriously, under normal play they take the ball from the net or off the bounce and are already heading toward the boundary.
It takes a split second to register disposal and to start the count. By this time they are usually OOB and at most I'm at the open end of my one count,i.e. half way, when they get there.
By your interpretation you could have as much as 7 or 8 seconds come off the clock from the time they get control until you'd have a violation.
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If they're hustling...I agree, less than a second...the gap between grabbing the ball and getting OOB will be very small. If they not hustling, it can easily be over a second...perhaps 2 or more.
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So why reward them for not hustling?
Why take game time from the other team?
If it is obvious confusion causing a delay to make the throw in, I am more likely to wait for the light to come on to judge disposal.
But they get no break for not hustling, and I believe that falls under delaying and by rule the count should start.