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I was watching the Georgia/Louisiana 11-13 game and noticed at least one girl wearing what appears to be a rolled up bandanna. I thought that the LL use the same rules as high school for uniforms.
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I was watching the Georgia/Louisiana 11-13 game and noticed at least one girl wearing what appears to be a rolled up bandanna. I thought that the LL use the same rules as high school for uniforms.
I noticed bananas watching the two final games and wondered the same.
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Old Wed Aug 13, 2014, 01:12pm
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LL has its own rule book.
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I know that LL has it own rules book. I was referring to the rule about uniforms. I thought the LL rule was about the same as high school about bandannas.
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I know that LL has it own rules book. I was referring to the rule about uniforms. I thought the LL rule was about the same as high school about bandannas.
What's the high school rule?
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Old Wed Aug 13, 2014, 05:35pm
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Rather than saying that one rule set was like another rule set, why not read the rule?
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What's the high school rule?
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No bandannas, multi-colors or knots.
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Old Thu Aug 14, 2014, 06:20am
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I noticed bananas watching the two final games and wondered the same.
Bananas are legal as long as they are yellow.
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Rather than saying that one rule set was like another rule set, why not read the rule?
I no longer have the LL softball rule set and that is why I was asking.
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I no longer have the LL softball rule set and that is why I was asking.
You'd have to decide they were jewelry to ban them.
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You'd have to decide they were jewelry to ban them.

We have a saying in basketball: "If you weren't wearing when you were born, then it is jewelry."

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What's the high school rule?
I would think the more pertinent question might be what is the LL rule? Is there no definition of legal headwear?

Most softball rule sets (ASA, NCAA, NFHS) have that definition; ball caps, visors, headbands. Most specify that handkerchiefs/bandanas and plastic visors are illegal. Not jewelry or an adornment, a defined (albeit optional) uniform part.
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We have a saying in basketball: "If you weren't wearing when you were born, then it is jewelry."

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I would think the more pertinent question might be what is the LL rule? Is there no definition of legal headwear?

Most softball rule sets (ASA, NCAA, NFHS) have that definition; ball caps, visors, headbands. Most specify that handkerchiefs/bandanas and plastic visors are illegal. Not jewelry or an adornment, a defined (albeit optional) uniform part.
1.11 (a ) (1) All players on a team shall wear numbered uniforms identical in color, trim and style. The wearing of hats or visors is optional for each player while on defense.

That's it. You'd have to decide that the bandana was jewelry.

1.11 (j) Players must not wear jewelry such as, but not limited to, rings, watches, earrings, bracelets, necklaces, nor any hard cosmetic/decorative items. This applies regardless of the composition of such jewelry, hard cosmetic item or hard decorative item. EXCEPTION: Jewelry that alerts medical personnel to a specific condition is permissible.

Never seen a hard bandana.

The rules instruction manual makes a referfece to the joke (their word) about anything you weren't born with.
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1.11 (a ) (1) All players on a team shall wear numbered uniforms identical in color, trim and style. The wearing of hats or visors is optional for each player while on defense.

That's it. You'd have to decide that the bandana was jewelry.

1.11 (j) Players must not wear jewelry such as, but not limited to, rings, watches, earrings, bracelets, necklaces, nor any hard cosmetic/decorative items. This applies regardless of the composition of such jewelry, hard cosmetic item or hard decorative item. EXCEPTION: Jewelry that alerts medical personnel to a specific condition is permissible.

Never seen a hard bandana.

The rules instruction manual makes a referfece to the joke (their word) about anything you weren't born with.
OK, so it is your interpretation of 1.11 (a) that anything worn on the head that isn't jewelry is optional, that it isn't limited to hats and visors?

Suppose a player chose to place a beehive, complete with bees on her head. Since it isn't jewelry, nor a hard item, you would allow that, right? How about a paper plate with a banana and peanut butter sandwich? Or a Mexican sombrero; that's a hat, right, so she can wear it? Star Wars stormtrooper helmet?

Yeah, certainly extreme, and even foolish examples. But if you have no line drawn anywhere, then they should all be allowable. Unless you read 1.11 (a) to limit what is legal headwear.
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