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Forum: Basketball Sun Apr 13, 2014, 12:52am
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Posted By just another ref
You may think I'm doing it again, but you're...

You may think I'm doing it again, but you're going to have to explain what you mean by that.
Forum: Basketball Sun Apr 13, 2014, 12:09am
Replies: 66
Views: 4,984
Posted By just another ref
What state was this? Sounds like a debate to me.

What state was this? Sounds like a debate to me.
Forum: Basketball Sat Apr 12, 2014, 11:04am
Replies: 66
Views: 4,984
Posted By just another ref
I'm not speaking for anybody. I'm voicing an...

I'm not speaking for anybody. I'm voicing an opinion. Apparently the official in Nevadaref's play had the same opinion.
Forum: Basketball Sat Apr 12, 2014, 10:50am
Replies: 66
Views: 4,984
Posted By just another ref
So now we're arguing about what an argument is. ...

So now we're arguing about what an argument is. Okay, I give you this one. If it's suffer in silence or initiate an argument, I'll initiate one every time. I encourage others to do the same.
Forum: Basketball Sat Apr 12, 2014, 10:48am
Replies: 66
Views: 4,984
Posted By just another ref
You're saying it's okay to yield to your partner...

You're saying it's okay to yield to your partner if you don't know what his call is, but if you know his call is different you have to report both?

I'm not buying this at all.
Forum: Basketball Sat Apr 12, 2014, 10:45am
Replies: 66
Views: 4,984
Posted By just another ref
And that's what the case play says to do. The...

And that's what the case play says to do. The officials made two different rulings and reported both fouls.

Who did or didn't make a preliminary block/charge signal has nothing to do with it.
Forum: Basketball Fri Apr 11, 2014, 11:48pm
Replies: 66
Views: 4,984
Posted By just another ref
Unless I'm missing something, there is a...

Unless I'm missing something, there is a significant flaw in this answer.

If both officials only had a fist up, they may still have had different judgments on the same play, but in this case it is...
Forum: Basketball Fri Apr 11, 2014, 11:10pm
Replies: 66
Views: 4,984
Posted By just another ref
So what was the question?

So what was the question?
Forum: Basketball Fri Apr 11, 2014, 10:59pm
Replies: 66
Views: 4,984
Posted By just another ref
That's a separate case play. It says the...

That's a separate case play. It says the officials must decide which happened first.
Forum: Basketball Fri Apr 11, 2014, 09:07pm
Replies: 66
Views: 4,984
Posted By just another ref
yep The NFHS rules editor says the...

yep



The NFHS rules editor says the officials not only can but should come together and decide.
Forum: Basketball Fri Apr 11, 2014, 04:07pm
Replies: 66
Views: 4,984
Posted By just another ref
And what people would that be? I have quotes...

And what people would that be? I have quotes from my people. Let's see some from your people.
Forum: Basketball Fri Apr 11, 2014, 04:05pm
Replies: 66
Views: 4,984
Posted By just another ref
The editor of the NFHS books doesn't matter to...

The editor of the NFHS books doesn't matter to you?
Forum: Basketball Fri Apr 11, 2014, 01:11pm
Replies: 66
Views: 4,984
Posted By just another ref
I didn't initiate the argument. I refused to go...

I didn't initiate the argument. I refused to go along with a widely held idea which makes no sense. And now I have support for my position from people who matter. Find somebody who matters to...
Forum: Basketball Fri Apr 11, 2014, 11:06am
Replies: 66
Views: 4,984
Posted By just another ref
Somebody will correct me if I'm wrong. Two...

Somebody will correct me if I'm wrong. Two officials judge the same act differently all the time. But nobody reports both fouls unless they improperly give conflicting preliminary signals.


...
Forum: Basketball Fri Apr 11, 2014, 08:43am
Replies: 66
Views: 4,984
Posted By just another ref
So now all that's left is: "Yeah, but that's...

So now all that's left is: "Yeah, but that's what they meant to say."

I cannot speak for Ms. Wynn or Mr. Alexander, but I don't know, or care, what the intent was of the case play writer. It is...
Forum: Basketball Fri Apr 11, 2014, 01:34am
Replies: 66
Views: 4,984
Posted By just another ref
Excellent. Go for it.

Excellent. Go for it.
Forum: Basketball Fri Apr 11, 2014, 01:24am
Replies: 66
Views: 4,984
Posted By just another ref
Clearly stated? You think that this play clearly...

Clearly stated? You think that this play clearly states that signals, even though not mentioned at all, obligate us to report a block and a charge on the same play, which is by definition,...
Forum: Basketball Fri Apr 11, 2014, 12:04am
Replies: 66
Views: 4,984
Posted By just another ref
I have no idea. I do 3 man so seldom it is not...

I have no idea. I do 3 man so seldom it is not high on my list of priorities.
Forum: Basketball Thu Apr 10, 2014, 11:39pm
Replies: 66
Views: 4,984
Posted By just another ref
And this is relevant in this thread how?

And this is relevant in this thread how?
Forum: Basketball Thu Apr 10, 2014, 10:59pm
Replies: 66
Views: 4,984
Posted By just another ref
:)

:)
Forum: Basketball Thu Apr 10, 2014, 10:56pm
Replies: 66
Views: 4,984
Posted By just another ref
I agree. She did give her own interpretation...

I agree.

She did give her own interpretation first, then added to check with your own state.
Forum: Basketball Thu Apr 10, 2014, 10:40pm
Replies: 66
Views: 4,984
Posted By just another ref
Everybody knows that the case is about a double...

Everybody knows that the case is about a double foul. The question is whether signals are the key to the case. The answer is no.
Forum: Basketball Thu Apr 10, 2014, 10:05pm
Replies: 66
Views: 4,984
Posted By just another ref
Final piece of the puzzle

In her answer about the blarge play NFHS rulebook editor Theresia Wynns ultimately stated one should check with ones own state to see how this play should be administered.

So I did.

We had a...
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