The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Football

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Wed May 06, 2009, 12:53am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 130
advantage to kickoff out of bounds, am i missing something here?

okay, so in HS, the normal kickoff line is a team's own 40 yard line...

let's say we're in TX and playing under college rules (with some modifications like the 40 yd line for kickoffs)

I think they no longer do the 5 yd penalty for kickoff out of bounds, it's just straight up 30 yds from the spot of the kick now...

now after the last scoring play (PAT) the defense commits two a dead ball unsportsmanlike conduct penalty that will be enforced on the kickoff, so now the team that just scored (now the kicking team) is kicking off from the receiving team's 45 yard line...

if a kickoff out of bounds is 30 yds from the spot of the kick (assuming the kickoff went further than 30 yds) wouldn't it be more advantageous to aim the kickoff out of bounds at like say the 10 yd line rather than just kicking it through the end zone for a touchback? If the 30 yds is enforced from the spot of the kick then wouldn't the receiving team have to take the ball at the 15 yd line then?

What if the kickoff was from the receiving team's 30 yd line? (possible from two dead ball 15 yarder penalties on the receiving team b4 the kickoff)

most coaches i've spoken to about the rule say the ball is placed on the 40 yd line no matter what but I believe they're mistaken since they've been either watching too much NFL/college or don't really know what the rule is...and coaches aren't really known for knowing the rule book in depth...

i know this play doesn't come up too often (probably as rare as a 4th out appeal in baseball/softball) but it's the one play that I can't seem to get a clear answer from...
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Wed May 06, 2009, 07:20am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Mullica Hill, NJ
Posts: 798
You are mistaken in the college rules. So, unless Texas did an additional modificaition to the rules (other than what you stated) they can enforce 5 yards from the previous spot or 5 yards from the dead ball spot where the ball subsequently belongs to team B. I'm just replying regarding NCAA rules. Texas officials will need to chime and and indicate whether the 5-yard part of the penalty has been removed. If the only modification is the restraining line, then there are additional options.

Last edited by ljudge; Wed May 06, 2009 at 07:22am.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Wed May 06, 2009, 09:49am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Great Britain
Posts: 244
Not in Texas either (heck, I'm not even in the US) but I do work NCAA Rules.

My guess would be that Texas changed the kickoff line from the 30 to the 40 due to their younger age kickers. I'd be a little surprised if they messed with anything else.

So as ljudge already stated, the receivers have multiple options:-
o take the ball 30yds ahead of the kickoff line ie the receivers 30yd line
o push 'em back 5 make 'em kick again
o tack on 5yds from the spot it went oob
o technically a 4th option is to decline the penalty and take it where it went oob, but you would never even offer that option, it would only confuse the captain.
__________________
Sorry Death, you lose.... It was Professor Plum!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
AR advantage? wardtc Soccer 14 Tue May 15, 2007 02:14am
Advantage Disadvantage, Etc. BillyMac Basketball 16 Thu Feb 22, 2007 03:07pm
Help me with advantage/disadvantage lmeadski Basketball 21 Thu Feb 16, 2006 03:22pm
Interception out-of-bounds tossed to another player in-bounds mrcrumley Football 22 Wed Oct 27, 2004 07:32am
Advantage with substitutions KYRef2 Soccer 4 Fri Oct 10, 2003 08:57am


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:44am.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1