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Old Wed Oct 29, 2014, 09:22am
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Our state association director of officials stated that it was so a rebounder couldn't stand back 36 inches from the lane and get a running start at the rebound.
This is the same reasoning we got from our state association a couple years ago, who supposedly got it unofficially, verbally from the Fed. Who knows where it originated from...probably a Fed board member saw it at a game once and thought "there outta be a rule..."
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Old Wed Oct 29, 2014, 10:34am
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This is the same reasoning we got from our state association a couple years ago, who supposedly got it unofficially, verbally from the Fed. Who knows where it originated from...probably a Fed board member saw it at a game once and thought "there outta be a rule..."
I was under the impression it was meant to stop the play where A2 steps back and drops behind B1 unseen: but I never really heard officially.

I've never actually seen a player stand back far enough to warrant making this call.
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Old Wed Oct 29, 2014, 10:43am
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Why would that be a problem?
There is enough contact on a missed FT as it is, giving one player a 3 foot head start to come crashing in would only result in more, I'm guessing.
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Yes: NFHS and NCAA Men's

No: NCAA Women's, FIBA, and NBA/WNBA

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I believe that the answer in NCAAW is yes. This was a change, I think, 2 years ago. B cannot put more than 4 players in lane spaces, but if spaces are vacant, players can move to occupy them. (8-4.4b and c)
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Old Wed Oct 29, 2014, 12:30pm
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I believe that the answer in NCAAW is yes. This was a change, I think, 2 years ago. B cannot put more than 4 players in lane spaces, but if spaces are vacant, players can move to occupy them. (8-4.4b and c)
Correct. Changed for the 2011-12 season.
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Old Wed Oct 29, 2014, 12:46pm
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I believe that the answer in NCAAW is yes. This was a change, I think, 2 years ago. B cannot put more than 4 players in lane spaces, but if spaces are vacant, players can move to occupy them. (8-4.4b and c)


I stand corrected. I retired from officiating college basketball after the 2007-08 season, and while I purchase the NCAA Men's and Women's college rules books every year, I sometimes do not peruse them as closely as I should.

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Old Wed Oct 29, 2014, 01:07pm
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There is enough contact on a missed FT as it is, giving one player a 3 foot head start to come crashing in would only result in more, I'm guessing.
And calling the foul would put a quick stop to it.

No need to guess.
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Old Wed Oct 29, 2014, 02:20pm
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The answer is...

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New language in Rule 9-1-3d states that a player leaves a marked lane space when he or she contacts any part of the court outside the marked lane space (3 feet by 3 feet). A clarification to Rule 9-1-3g indicates that a player occupying a marked lane space must have one foot positioned near the outer edge of the free-throw lane line with the other positioned anywhere within the designated 36-inch lane space.

(Mary) Struckhoff said these changes were necessitated by players attempting to leave their positions too early to gain a rebound advantage.
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Doesn't being able to move on the release make this reasoning obsolete now?
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Old Wed Oct 29, 2014, 03:10pm
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Doesn't being able to move on the release make this reasoning obsolete now?
*I'm thinking the same thing
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I guess they're trying to avoid players gaining momentum, and thus turning a simple foul into something that could cause injury.
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Old Wed Oct 29, 2014, 10:31pm
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I guess they're trying to avoid players gaining momentum, and thus turning a simple foul into something that could cause injury.
*Well I must say that you are conferring a measure of "fore sight" to our NFHS rule makers, perhaps that was their stratagem--an ultimate concern for the student-athlete's safety but hey I am just a worker bee.
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Just remember, only two offensive and four defensive players maximum are allowed at any time no matter how many empty spots there are.

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Just remember, only two offensive and four players maximum are allowed at any time no matter how many empty spots there are.
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Doesn't being able to move on the release make this reasoning obsolete now?
That reasoning, yes. I'm not sure that was it, though.
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