T For Illegal Jerseys?

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra

I worked an AAU national tournament a week ago. I recall reading their rule deviations from the Fed (which is what they use as their primary rule set). From the AAU website, Rule IV, Section G. regarding National Tournaments:

1. Players' jerseys must have numbers on both the front and back.
2. Numbers can be 00-99.
3. Minimum size of numbers shall be 2" on the front and 4" on the back.
4. Teams competing in National Championship tournaments must have white and dark jerseys.
5. Home wears White jerseys and Visitor wears Dark jerseys.
6. The top/left team on the schedule shall be the home team and sit on the scorekeepers’ left.
7. The bottom/right team on the schedule shall be the visiting team and sit on the scorekeepers’
right.
8. Violation of Section G.5. shall be penalized by a two (2) shot administrative technical foul for each illegal jersey. The penalty will be assessed at the time the player with the illegal jersey enters the game.

I'm guessing the national administrator at the game site insisted that it be enforced as written. Before anyone asks: http://image.aausports.org/handbooks...L-HANDBOOK.pdf

BZ's post is correct.

While the NFHS rule is just one TF and two FTs. AAU, last year, issued a ruing applicable to only their Boys' National Tournaments, that a TF and FTs will be shot for each illegal jersey.

Fortunately for me, in the AAU Boys' National I officiated in last year, I did not have jersey problems.

MTD, Sr.


P.S. Let me add that this rule adaptation is for AAU Boys' Nationals and not Girls'. AAU Boys' Basketball uses NFHS Rules; AAU Girls' and Women's Basketball uses NCAA Women's Rules; and AAU Men's Basketball uses FIBA Rules.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by PG_Ref

When the rule first changed, the penalty was free throws for each violation. The change to only one direct T to the head coach occurred a couple of seasons ago. Maybe these officials didn't get that memo.

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

If it's a national tournament, most definitely.

We can't complain when AAU is rag tag, then complain if they care about the rules. (Even though they enforced it wrong)

Or perhaps they read and followed the rules for the tournament they were working and did it correctly. As fellow officials, you should know to get the right information before you criticize.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

While the NFHS rule is just one TF and one FT.

One free throw? C'mon Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Aren't you again confusing the rules that Dr. Naismith personally taught you with our thoroughly modern 21st century rules? Stop living in the past. It's two free throws. And we only have one jump ball in a regulation game. And see that thing at the table? It's a possession arrow. And we longer have laces on the basketball, and we now only use peach baskets to hold peaches. Wake up and smell the coffee.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

One free throw? C'mon Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Aren't you again confusing the rules that Dr. Naismith personally taught you with our thoroughly modern 21st century rules? Stop living in the past. It's two free throws. And we only have one jump ball in a regulation game. And see that thing at the table? It's a possession arrow. And we longer have laces on the basketball, and we now only use peach baskets to hold peaches. Wake up and smell the coffee.

Billy:

I corrected. My editing reason was: "correcting a senile old man error".

LOL!

MTD, Sr.


P.S.: Oh how I remember the days, as if it were only yesterday, when the penalty for TFs that were neither Intentional nor Flagrant was only one FT.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Or perhaps they read and followed the rules for the tournament they were working and did it correctly. As fellow officials, you should know to get the right information before you criticize.

Maybe you should read all the responses.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Maybe you should read all the responses.

BadNewsRef:

Read my posts. The AAU Boys' Basketball Committee adopted a rule starting in 2013 that made the penalty for illegal jerseys to be an Administrative TF for each illegal jersey.

It is not unusual for an National Organization to adopt rules that fit their needs. A good example is YBOA (which uses NFHS Basketball Rules):

We all know that if there is a foul that happens so close to the end of the game that the game clock can not be stopped before time expires, the FTs are not attempted unless they affect the outcome of the game. YBOA in the early 2000's changed their National Tournament Rules to require the FTs to be attempted during pool play games even if they did not effect the outcome of the game because of point differential tie breakers. I know why they adopted the change because I officiated the game that prompted the change, but that is a story for another time, .

MTD, Sr.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Oh how I remember the days, as if it were only yesterday, when the penalty for TFs that were neither Intentional nor Flagrant was only one FT.

I've always maintained that, for "experienced" officials, the rules are easy, it's the rule changes that are difficult.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I've always maintained that, for "experienced" officials, the rules are easy, it's the rule changes that are difficult.

Billy:

No truer words have ever been spoken.

MTD, Sr.