NFHS Rules Changes Predictions/Rumors/Desires

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I hope that you younguns' realize that the over the past thirty-plus years that NFHS has changed the rules from the "hit", to the "release" (1981), and, most recently, back to the "hit" (1997).

Thanks guys. I changed the date from 1993 to 1997.

This is what confused me: 2006-08 NFHS Basketball Handbook: 1993: Player along lane may not break plane of free throw line until ball hit backboard, etc.

You would think that after thirty-three years I would know the difference between a free throw line, and a lane line?

Now I'm never going to realize my dream of becoming an esteemed Forum member. One step forward. Two steps backward.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Boy! There is no pleasing you young'uns, LOL!

MTD, Sr.

I am just saying that I am not too old to forget these kinds of things yet.

Peace

[Coach Bill]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I can see your point, but like Camron Rust stated earlier, it only happens, maybe, three, or four, times a year, i.e., free throw shooter getting own rebound (I think Camron Rust's numbers are a little too high), so I doubt that the NFHS sees this as a problem.

Full disclosure - I'm still bitter about the shooter getting a key rebound on us on a purposely missed free throw. It was a perfect miss - bounced hard back to him.

Also - I agree what other people said. Call the violations. I teach my kids to go in when the ball's about a foot away. We never get called. I also teach them, if the opponent goes in early - u go too. Because, it so rarely gets called.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Coach Bill

... the shooter getting a key rebound on us on a purposely missed free throw. It was a perfect miss, bounced hard back to him.

I've seen this tried several times as a player, coach, and official, and I've never actually seen it work. Usually the shooter violates by missing the rim and just hits the backboard.

[RefCT]

Thanks for clarifying what I was going to ask in a follow-up question Nevadaref.

Billy and Adam - I was not aware what the rule actually read, so thanks for pointing that out. I never even considered the change in rule (as stated in my OP) until a very veteran Varsity official (state finals guy) had the situation occur in a V game after my JV game and he said he knew the sub shouldn't have come in but let him anyway (it was a taunting call after a made basket, no PF). I then saw the same situation with other very veteran officials a couple other times.

Even though I only lurk most of the time, following this forum has expanded my knowledge tremendously and I thank you all. It is time I hit the books again this summer and really study on what the rules are saying.

Thanks everyone for the continued conversations. It is always giving me the "how would I handle the situation" question and it is interesting to see the different interpretations.

[RefCT]

Does anybody know when the new rules will be announced?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by RefCT

Does anybody know when the new rules will be announced?

The NFHS press release came out on May 8, 2013 last year.

(Imagine Carly Simon singing Anticipation here.)

[Multiple Sports]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Billy is correct in his dates. The NFHS and NCAA Men's changed from "hit" to "release" in 1981. The NFHS and NCAA Men's Committees said the change was made because officials were not enforcing the rule as written. When the NCAA Women's Committee was created in the late 1980's it adopted the NCAA Men's "release" rule. When the NFHS change back to "hit" in 1993, the reason was due excessive contact during rebounding action. BUT, one can go back through all of the NFHS and NCAA Men's/Women's POEs for the last 20 years and one will see that illegal contact has been a concern more often than not and the Rules Committees POEs would seem that the Committees want officials to call more fouls.

MTD, Sr.

Just what we need, someone validating a response form Billy Mac !!!! Now that he thinks he is right, we may have to hear him for the entire off -season !!!

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Multiple Sports

Just what we need, someone validating a response form Billy Mac !!!!

Will this help me realize my dream of becoming an esteemed Forum member.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Will this help me realize my dream of becoming an esteemed Forum member.

Anyhow, there you go. Well earned.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Rich

Anyhow, there you go. Well earned.

I’d like to thank all the little people who made this possible, but I can’t remember your names. When will I receive my Basketball Forum Esteemed Member decoder ring? Also, I understand that there's some type of monetary stipend attached to this honor. I'd like to forgo the stipend and turn it over to the Basketball Forum Education Fund. I'd like to, but I can't, because I need the money, so please send it to me as soon as possible.

I need to get new business cards, one's that read "Esteemed Forum Member". What am I supposed to do with the 10,000 old business cards that I had printed up? Wait? On second thought, don't answer that.

I don't care about the shot clock thing, but I pray every day that the NFHS will require PTS for Varsity games. One can hope.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by AremRed

I don't care about the shot clock thing, but I pray every day that the NFHS will require PTS for Varsity games. One can hope.

If you can even get it for State play-off games, you should be happy.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by AremRed

I don't care about the shot clock thing, but I pray every day that the NFHS will require PTS for Varsity games. One can hope.

That is one big wish. The schools I was around that used it stopped using it because of the cost it would take to keep it.

Peace

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

If you can even get it for State play-off games, you should be happy.

Originally Posted by JRutledge

That is one big wish.

I know, I was only half serious.