Block/Charge/Flop or no call

[bwstudentref]

I saw this clip today and thought it was a good video because you could see both views of the play. Would you call it a block charge or flop. In my opinion it looks like he moves right before contact and does not get legal guarding position.
Thanks,
bwstudentref

Baylor vs. Nebraska '07 - Nice Flop Video

[AllPurposeGamer]

Looking at the video, I would have a no call. Thought the contact was minimal.

[Snaqwells]

Originally Posted by bwstudentref

I saw this clip today and thought it was a good video because you could see both views of the play. Would you call it a block charge or flop. In my opinion it looks like he moves right before contact and does not get legal guarding position.
Thanks,
bwstudentref

1. He had Legal Guarding Position, so his slight movement at contact is perfectly legal.
2. He started to fall backwards slightly before contact. This is also allowed, as a player may move to "absorb" contact.

With the benefit of replay, it certainly looks like the contact was minimal enough for a no-call. But just because the defender starts to fall backwards does not absolve the offense from responsibility for the contact.

I wouldn't call this a flop, though. To me, a flop is when there's no contact and the player has no reason to expect it. Anticipating contact is different, IMO.

[BillyMac]

Player control foul.

[Anchor]

Team control--he had passed the ball prior to contact.

I am a bit curious as to why the call came from lead and not center. It was clearly on the opposite side of the lane.

[Paul LeBoutillier]

Originally Posted by Anchor

I am a bit curious as to why the call came from lead and not center. It was clearly on the opposite side of the lane.

Lead had a good view of the defender's feet and stance.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Anchor

Team control--he had passed the ball prior to contact.

I am a bit curious as to why the call came from lead and not center. It was clearly on the opposite side of the lane.

That's the NCAA men's mechanic. The Lead takes the paint. The C helps, but the Lead has primary there.
A bit different from the NFHS.

[Johnny Ringo]

Originally Posted by Anchor

Team control--he had passed the ball prior to contact.

I am a bit curious as to why the call came from lead and not center. It was clearly on the opposite side of the lane.

NFHS or NCAA - This would result in no free throws if the team was in the bonus, correct?

[JRutledge]

I got nothing. It looked like he flopped big time and tried to act like he got run over. If anything I would have called a block on him to not reward that yelling he did. And if I called that play, I would want it back.

Peace

[AllPurposeGamer]

Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo

NFHS or NCAA - This would result in no free throws if the team was in the bonus, correct?

Correct

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

With the benefit of replay, it certainly looks like the contact was minimal enough for a no-call. But just because the defender starts to fall backwards does not absolve the offense from responsibility for the contact.

+1

I don't think TC was a horrendous call, but with the video no call might have been better.

[biz]

After the first look I was ok with the TC foul. On the second look I say no call. Not enough contact for me. The player who made the pass was under control and the contact was minimal. I would venture to say that if the defensive player was not trying to buy the call that he would not be displaced from his LGP.

BTW wouldn't we all be fantastic officials if we got two looks at every play...especially if one of the looks is in slow motion.

[Jeremy Hohn]

Amen Biz!

I generally try to make sure that the speed of the defender is not tremendously greater than the offense going into the lane. That view from the lead wasn't the best, and a no call would have been mine..sorry that was a flop bigger than dallas!