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Old Wed Feb 25, 2009, 11:57pm
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Regaining own air ball

Brother-in-law (who at one time blew the Fox 40) asked me to ask this: Can a shooter be the first to touch his own try if it doesn't hit rim or backboard?

I told him I thought so -- as long as it was a legitimate try attempt in the officials' eyes -- but I wasn't in the mood to jump up and grab my book at the time to cite chapter and verse.

Having checked by now, though, would this come under 4-41-4 (when a try ends ... hitting the floor)? If so, can it be legally regained whether or not it hits the floor, or is there something else at play?

Also, he wondered if the described sitch is OK, had the rule been changed recently? Thanks for any help -- you know how brothers-in-law can be ...
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Old Thu Feb 26, 2009, 12:02am
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You are right. Once a player shoots there is no more team control so anyone can catch the ball before it hits the ground.

p.s. You cannot do this in the NBA
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Old Thu Feb 26, 2009, 12:21am
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I believe this has always been the rule. It hasn't changed recently anyway.
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Old Thu Feb 26, 2009, 12:27am
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Brother-in-law (who at one time blew the Fox 40) asked me to ask this: Can a shooter be the first to touch his own try if it doesn't hit rim or backboard?

Having checked by now, though, would this come under 4-41-4 (when a try ends ... hitting the floor)? If so, can it be legally regained whether or not it hits the floor, or is there something else at play?
It is part of rules 4-12 (Player and/or Team Control) and 4-44 (Traveling.) Case Book 4.44 Sit(B) is this exact play (hitting the floor is moot) and as Jevaque said, you are right. No violation.
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Old Thu Feb 26, 2009, 12:30am
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jevaque is also correct that the NBA prohibits this while the NCAA and NFHS allow it.
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jevaque is also correct that the NBA prohibits this while the NCAA and NFHS allow it.
Do you know why this is illegal in the NBA??
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Old Thu Feb 26, 2009, 01:13am
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Do you know why this is illegal in the NBA??
Because there is a specific rule that prohibits it. Other than that, I have no insight into their thinking in having such a rule.
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And for those of you who don't have books.....

NFHS Case Book 4.44 SITUATION B: A1 attempts a try after ending the dribble. The try does not touch the backboard, the rim or any other player. A1 runs and is able to catch the ball before it strikes the floor. Is this traveling? RULING: No. When A1 recovered his/her own try, A1 could either dribble, pass or try again. There was no team control after the ball was released on a try. (4-12; 4-41)
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The shooter can retrieve his or her own airball, if the referee considers it to be a shot attempt. The release ends team control. It is not a violation for that player to start another dribble at that point. When an airborne player keeps control of an attempted shot that is blocked and is unable to release the ball and returns to the floor with it, that player has not traveled; it is a held ball. If, in this situation, the shooter releases the ball, then this is simply a blocked shot and play continues. When an airborne player tries for goal, sees that the try will be blocked, purposely drops the ball, and picks up the ball after it hits the floor, that player has traveled by starting a dribble with the pivot foot off the floor, whether, or not, the defensive player touches the ball in the block attempt.
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This play happened in the Duke game last night. Horrible shot -- had to be 4 feet from the rim, maybe the ball was tipped. Shooter caught the ball and played on.
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This play happened in the Duke game last night. Horrible shot -- had to be 4 feet from the rim, maybe the ball was tipped. Shooter caught the ball and played on.

Just don't reset the shot clock if the "rebound" is recovered bu the shooting team.

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Doesn't someone get $5 every time this question gets asked?
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Old Thu Feb 26, 2009, 10:17am
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Doesn't someone get $5 every time this question gets asked?

Yes, the money goes to my favorite charity: The Blind in One Eye and Can't See Out of the Other Eye Basketball Officials Fund. Please make all checks out to Mark T. DeNucci, Sr., .

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I think the NF rule has always been this. I remember that when I started officiating, it said that the shooter could recover the ball even if it hadn't hit the peach basket.
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