team control and and player controp foul humm

[stewcall]

NFHS
I wonder will the player control foul signal now change and the new signal for player control and team control foul be the one used by college officals...
Stew in VA
CVBOA

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by stewcall
NFHS
I wonder will the player control foul signal now change and the new signal for player control and team control foul be the one used by college officals...
Stew in VA
CVBOA

I wouldn't think so. Let's remember that the airborne shooter rule hasn't changed. It is not the same as the NCAA rule. Therefore, the hand behind the head will continue to indicate a PC foul, which would mean the a shot by the airborne shooter could not score.

[blindzebra]

Originally posted by BktBallRef

I wouldn't think so. Let's remember that the airborne shooter rule hasn't changed. It is not the same as the NCAA rule. Therefore, the hand behind the head will continue to indicate a PC foul, which would mean the a shot by the airborne shooter could not score.

Isn't more likely that they will include an airborne shooter as an exception to a team control foul?

You wave off a made basket anyway on a PC on an airborne shooter, don't you?

I think we will go behind the head on all TC fouls, including fouls by airborne shooters.

[BktBallRef]

I bet we don't. I'll bet that the mechanic won't change.

[blindzebra]

Originally posted by BktBallRef
I bet we don't. I'll bet that the mechanic won't change.

But if the penalty is the same as a PC foul, why cloud the issue with two seperate signals?

It comes down to just waving off a shot on an airborne shooter, because after release there is no team control foul anyway.

[JugglingReferee]

This is a great bet. Put some moulah on it guys!

[Snake~eyes]

Originally posted by BktBallRef
I bet we don't. I'll bet that the mechanic won't change.

I agree, there really is no need for a change anyways.

[stewcall]

I'd Like to see the change--- the NCAA mechanic is strong and clear. No big deal to wipe the shot for a shooter....
prediction-- no change for 2 years...... study it....
change in 2007
Stew in VA
cvboa

[JRutledge]

Originally posted by blindzebra

But if the penalty is the same as a PC foul, why cloud the issue with two seperate signals?

It comes down to just waving off a shot on an airborne shooter, because after release there is no team control foul anyway.

The NCAA uses the same signal for both PC and team control foul. The rules and application are basically the same. It is possible that they would change the signal. It is an outside shot and I seriously doubt it (I think it would have been in the changes if they did change the mechanic). We will just have to see.

Peace

[ChuckElias]

I don't understand this whole thread. Why would the PC signal change? A PC foul is still a PC foul.

Is the question whether they'll add a TC signal or use the existing PC signal for the TC, too? If that's what we're asking, I would guess they'll use the PC signal for both.

[tjones1]

I agree. I think they will use the PC mechanic for both.

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by ChuckElias
I don't understand this whole thread. Why would the PC signal change? A PC foul is still a PC foul.

My point exactly.

[Mark Padgett]

I've seen a preview of the new mechanic. It will be the same for a PC foul and all other TC fouls. It is like this:

You put your right foot in
You put your right foot out
You put your right foot in
And you call the TC foul

OK, it doesn't exactly rhyme, but you try coming up with something when you've taken the wrong meds.

[bob jenkins]

Originally posted by stewcall
NFHS
I wonder will the player control foul signal now change and the new signal for player control and team control foul be the one used by college officals...
Stew in VA
CVBOA

Depends on which college officials you mean. The NCAAM mechanics are different from the NCAAW mechanics.

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by bob jenkins

Depends on which college officials you mean. The NCAAM mechanics are different from the NCAAW mechanics.

But each set uses only one signal (hand behind the head for men, fist "punch" for women) for both the PC and TC foul, right?