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I am confused about illegal screens. Is it possible to have a Violation and not a foul when calling an illegal screen?
Example; Setting a pick to the rear of a defensive player (Blind Screen) and not allowing room for the defender to take on normal step back. Or setting a screen and then sliding sideways to further blaock the defender. Are these violations? vs. Setting a screen and as the defender runs by, throwing out an elbow to stop or slow him down, which would be a foul, not an illegal screen. Correct? |
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Your first paragraph gives examples of what could be called illegal screens (BLOCK!)
The second paragraph is an example of a foul. (illegal hands, or hold, or perhaps intentional foul; your choice ) what most coaches/players want to call an illegal screen is two offensive players running side by side... "That's nothing coach!"
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The answer to your question is NO. there is no violation. On a moving screen it is a definite foul - I would prefer to call these fouls as "holds". The blind screen is a "block". As DDTB said the elbow could be called a number of things including intentional or flagrant
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Gotta have contact.
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Welcome to the forum. Given enough contact, a foul may be called. Absent contact, eventhough the defender may have had to adjust normal guarding action to avoid the contact, there is no foul or violation mick |
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And, to be perfectly clear...
Screening is never a violation. It is either a foul (as has been well covered already), or it is nothing.
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Ok..I think I understand the screening rules pretty well, but what restrictions are there on the screened player? For example, A1 sets a screen on moving defender B1. A1 is stationary, and gives B1 2 strides. B1 contacts A1 in a horrendous crash. Is this a foul on B1? Is this always a foul if the screened player makes any type contact with the screener, or does it have to be fairly violent??
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The screened player must make an *attempt to avoid* screener. (ie, The screened player may not push through, pull through, grab through, hack through the screen.) If an "attempt to avoid is made", I will not generally call illegal contact unless there is that "horrendous crash". mick |
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